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Poll: Was The Harassment Of Bullied Bus Monitor Karen Klein Worth $665,000?

School bus monitor became a national celebrity after a video of her being bullied by grade school students went viral.

 

School bus monitor Karen Klein, 68, became a celebrity and media sensation after a video of her being bullied by grade school students went viral.

The video (which is attached to this story) has been uploaded to Youtube several times and has garnered millions of views. Klein, 68, was a bus monitor in Greece, New York when the incident occured. The video appeared on Youtube June 19.

As Patch blogger Judy S. Freedman wrote, .

The incident also has led to the harassment of the students involved and their families, the Democrat and Chronicle reported. Some of the students involved had received death threats, the newspaper reported.

Since the video became public, the students have been suspended for a year and will reportedly attend an alternative school during that time.

A Toronto resident, Max Sidorov, was so upset by the video that he began an online fundraiser for Klein. Sidorov's goal was was to raise $5,000. Instead, Sidorov raised about $665,000.

"It is ridiculously more than I expected," Sidorov told USAToday. "I just had an idea. It's the people who took it and ran with it."

Chris Kelly wrote a blog post for Huffington Post stating that Klein should give some of the money to the school district she worked for. Kelly wrote that Klein should refund her salary of $15,506.

"[W]hy was she there? What did she think her job was? What did the parents who put their children on the bus think? Because, for $375 a week, to ride the bus twice, she doesn't appear to be preventing very much bullying," Kelly wrote.

Klein never reported the incident to the school district, USAToday reported.

In an interview with WGRZ-TV channel 2 Klein said that she is not returning to work as a bus monitor. As for the money, Klein was asked about people who have questioned whether she was doing her job and deserved the money: "That's basically what they're saying I guess. I didn't plan this. This wasn't my idea."

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Malibu Bob July 1, 2012 at 02:24 pm
"Poll: Was The Harassment Of Bullied Bus Monitor Karen Klein Worth $665,000?"
What a set up. Who writes these "let's bait our readers" trash? This isn't news nor is it good journalism. All these articles do is inflame. NO, it WASN'T worth $665,000. It was worth A LOT MORE in self-respect, pride, humiliation!!! Here was a quiet, gentle woman thrust into the public eye through no fault of her own. Give her credit. She's one heck of a Lady.
Debirag July 1, 2012 at 02:33 pm
All really great strategies, although it's possible the bus driver would not want to stop the bus, fearing job loss or the police might not take it seriously. But, I would have stopped the bus and called for help. I think the idea that the students be remanded to their parents' custody then and there, with administrative approval and involvement would have been the best deterrent to further episodes of abuse.
schuyler unger July 1, 2012 at 02:42 pm
I agree with Malibu Bob. I thought the same thing when I saw the poll title. What trash for a community forum. It means nothing if the community and the schools aren't working together to address the main issue: bullying and undisciplined children.
A. M. Kelly July 1, 2012 at 02:47 pm
I think this has little to do with the bus monitor's "skills"....What "skills" do you need to avoid abuse from little bullies with no respect for their elders?..Whatever these "skills" are they certainly weren't needed by older people when I was a kid..I grew up in the 60's and even kids who were mean to each other wouldn't THINK of abusing an older person like that....I don't know what educaction or "skills" you think school bus monitors need, but my bet is "the taxpayers", many of whom already gripe at paying middle level salaries of highly educated teachers, would go ballistic were their taxes raised ten cents to provide it.that training.
Lisa July 1, 2012 at 03:09 pm
Most of the news these days is trash...at least this brings attention to a ongoing and increasing problem of bullying at all levels. By the way...my guess is that a majority of the parents who would be called to come get their kids off the bus would sue the school district because 1) they were inconvenienced, or 2) their kids were not at fault - it was another kid, etc. The problem is parents need to hold their kids responsible for their actions. Anymore everyone is BFF/best friends with their kids - it's hard to be a parent and and friend too!
Holly July 1, 2012 at 03:11 pm
I don't see it as bullying but more of an issue of elder abuse. Is this how these kids treat their grandparents? Elder abuse is a crime. If these kids are doing this in middle school, what will they be like as adults?
Redhead July 1, 2012 at 03:23 pm
The money is not the point. The positive is that perhaps other kids who are thinking of behaving in this way will remember that there are consequences. The negative is that the school district would put a monitor onto the bus who is so unsuited to the job. This is obviously a sweet woman who was frightened and humiliated and I hope she takes a trip around the world!
llwvrt July 1, 2012 at 03:26 pm
It all starts out as bullying Holly. If you have no respect as a kid, what type of adult are you going to be?
A. M. Kelly July 1, 2012 at 03:59 pm
I agree with you, Carol. What is wrong with these kids?...Whatever it is, maybe a year's suspension which amounts to a year of getting "left back" will cure them.
A. M. Kelly July 1, 2012 at 03:59 pm
I second that, Eric...It is refreshing.
Chilawyer July 1, 2012 at 05:07 pm
Obviously Ms. Klein has received a tremendous financial windfall from her terrible experience. The money was freely donated (but should not be tax deductible) for her benefit, so there is no moral or legal wrong in her retaining the funds.
Having said that, and having watched the tape, I do conclude that she was completely incompetent at her job, not necessarily her fault, as it is possible that the school district's training of its bus monitors and its procedures for dealing with abuse of bus monitors was wholly inadequate. She should have informed the driver and the punks should have been kicked off the bus right then (they all have cell phones to call their parents for pick-ups) and banned from school transportation. If they refused to get off the police should have been called, just like METRA conductors call local police to remove passengers for insubordination and disorderly conduct.
Jo Anne Masterson July 1, 2012 at 05:25 pm
Aside from being appalled at the behavior, I am truly perplexed why Ms. Klein sat there and took the abuse. I would think there would be guidelines for a bus monitor before he/she gets on the bus. I would think it would be part of her job responsibility to report this behavior immediately. Yes, she is a gentle, kind woman who doesn't deserve the abuse, but apparently this has been an on-going situation and should have been nipped in the bud immediately, She deserved the money (let's call it battle pay) but I believe she was inefficient in her job position. As an aside, I would have liked to have seen or heard the parents response to the offensive, snobbish behavior of their children. These children should be made the "poster children" of bullying.
Lisa July 1, 2012 at 06:40 pm
Wow...I drive a bus and am so disgusted with the behavior of these kids. Bullying is bullying no matter what age... These kids could really use some counseling. How sad that they speak to adults in this manner. I am glad that they recorded this and are using this as an example for others.
Jose July 1, 2012 at 07:42 pm
WHAT KID NEED IS A LEATHER BELT ON THEIR BUTTS, BUT IS ILLEGAL..BLAME THE POLITICIANS--JUDGES--POLICE... PARENTS ARE AFRAID TO TOUCH THEIR KIDS. SPANKING ----BELT SPANKING WAS ALLOW IN THE OLD DAYS, WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY....TODAY WE HAVE NO DISCIPLINE.
Jose July 1, 2012 at 07:46 pm
OLD FASHION DISCIPLINE IS WHAT IS NEEDED TODAY. KIDS SHOULD GET A LEATHER BELT WHEN THEY DISRESPECT THEIR PARENTS AND OTHERS. BUT NO, IS ABUSE, BULL.
Kathryn July 1, 2012 at 07:53 pm
Agreed; it appears that she was a poor choice for the job. There must be some guidelines for permissible actions for a bus monitor to take in the face of such badgering. Kids will be cruel unless they know there will be consequences for their cruelty.
Lee July 1, 2012 at 07:53 pm
Linda: You nailed it. If it were a lawsuit award, I'd think it was overboard but since the money came from donations, it's fine. You can't judge (poll) what something is worth if the benefits are strictly donated.
lisa Temkin July 1, 2012 at 09:31 pm
Their blatant disrespect of this woman is horrifying! Why do these kids think it's acceptable to treat anyone like this? Being suspended from their school is an appropriate consequence to their heinous behavior. Hopefully they'll learn something from this. And the money....why would she need to give it to the school district? The money was donated to Karen Klein and she's entitled to keep it.
Didi L. July 1, 2012 at 11:17 pm
For those of you who think Klein is all that and a bag of Hot Cheetoes, go to Twitter and check out what she's tweeting. More is going to come out on this story in the coming weeks, don't miss it. Have some popcorn ready, gonna be a great show!
Dennis July 2, 2012 at 11:34 am
Parents, some of your kids are rotten, live with it! Your to busy working to be bothered with the children you foster, you expect the school system to raise your children and it ain't happening. Better to sue the teachers and system for not doing their job of raising your children. At what school taxes are your not getting what you think your paying for. Years ago I commented on my local school graduating hamburger flippers, nothing more... It still is valid!
allofus July 2, 2012 at 11:57 am
Okay. I just checked her twitter. It is filled with her offering tons of gratitude to people supporting her. I am not sure what you mean by your comment.
Anthony P. July 2, 2012 at 03:53 pm
I've seen way way worse all throughout my years growing up riding the bus, and in school to the teachers. But wait all the buses I rode had cameras and this was the mid-90's! Who's watching? This just so happen to be video taped and put on the internet.
Anthony P. July 2, 2012 at 03:57 pm
It's all about the parents, most of them are spineless these days! Teach your kids what respect is and the rest will follow.
Anthony P. July 2, 2012 at 03:59 pm
x2! Then when or if they make it to college, they still have no sense and graduate to taking my order!
Raymond Prusak July 2, 2012 at 09:29 pm
Hitting or yelling at children never worked with most kids. They just pretend to be good but actually get craftier at avoiding the wrath of guys like JOSE, who takes a simplistic approach raising kids who believe that violence is an acceptable form of communication. Het, I'm noy trying to preach being a softy, but children generally are aware of boundries once the social exile is established as a consequence. No facebook or no phone or some sort of reasonable approach rather than beating them. You beat them they learn to beat their girlfriends, wives, kids and anyone who flips them the bird in traffic. Hey, I box 3 times a week but I'd never consider punching someone unless to protect a loved one. JOSE you gave an approach that may appear to work but at what cost to the child and your own self respect?
Raymond Prusak July 2, 2012 at 09:39 pm
JOSE. Check out the piece in the Los Angeles Times online today. You can get it via google news. Mental, emotional problems plague adults who were slapped around or screamed at as children.
GuitarMan July 3, 2012 at 01:28 am
There is no national conversation about bullying, because most adults’ and the parents of many of these kids are probably equally uncivilized. We live in a world were “free speech” is an excuse to shout out any nonsense one sees fit to say.
Speaking only to a parent now, take a close look of how you comment about your co-workers, situations in the news, and anyone you disagree with, are your spoken works consistent with free speech and the open exchange of idea’s, or a one sided tirade about how “stupid” so and so is? Any “national debate” on bullying excuses the actions in the video if the kids’ good grades in school and hold their tongues until they step on the bus, or out of view of school officials. You know, “boys will be boys”. As parents we may stand up and take note when an extreme situation leads to physical harm, or worse. Again parents look at your own form of discourse and conduct, and not only once a kid seriously harmed.
GuitarMan July 3, 2012 at 01:59 am
Jose,
I don't think parents are afraid to punish their kids as you suggest, assuming that would prevent any future indiscretions. Did it work with you? A more appropriate step would be to do what was done with bad apples on the bus when I was a youngster; the bad apple(s) would take a ride back to the school where the parents could pick them up. Then give junior some public service, cutting the school yard lawn with a push mower? But a true deterrent would be to place adults on the bus who are serving out some form of community service. I see in the papers frequently about a variety of traffic offenses that include community service. Benefits abound, no cost to the school, other than remedial training for the adults, given by a school staffer on how to “handle” little Johnnie or Mary. Our community as a whole would become more aware of how kids really act, and take real steps to identify and remedy the unruly children that act like this.
CK July 3, 2012 at 03:32 pm
The poll was set up wrong. Thew first question was about the kids behavior and the second one on the reaction to the news media. Your asking different questions. Here my form
Q1: Is the behavior of the kids wrong? Q2: Is the behavior of the kids ok because they were just stressed out after another day of learning from a sociology major that George Bush is the reason why they are all screwed up in the head?
allbullyingsucks July 15, 2012 at 06:37 pm
No it wasn't!!!!!!! Especially when people are physically injured or have died from bullying EVERY DAY!!!!! It's a slap in the face to them and their loved ones, and does nothing for the cause of antibullying!!!!!!! As you can see from all the hateful posts from people arguing over this everwhere, this has done nothing but show the corrupt school system, the bullies the parents, and incompetent workers that they can all keep doing what there going AND make mint off it AND become famous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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