UPDATED: District 15 to Implement New Schedule for 2013-2014 School Year

Teacher professional development will be created by adjusting the start or end times of the school day; Superintendent Scott Thompson says input is still being sought from the community.

UPDATED: Thursday, January 3 at 11:50 a.m. 

A statement from District 15 Superintendent Scott Thompson.

The committee charged with working on the late start/early dismissal project will be seeking input from parents in the next week or so. The committee definitely wants to find ways to lessen the impact on families. All options for making the best decision will be considered.  Parents/community members are encouraged to respond to that request for feedback. 

No decision has been made at this point. After receiving feedback, the committee will offer a proposal later this month or early in February. The Board of Education's Communication Committee has planned a Community Forum on Jan. 26th (9:00-11:00AM) (location to be announced at a later date) to address this topic. The results of the survey will be available at that meeting and conversations can occur regarding the proposals. The committee will also have some possibilities for child care for families with working parents at that meeting.

UPDATED: Wednesdsay, January 2 at 3:30 p.m. 

Being touted as a way to provide more professional development for teachers while maintaining current instructional time, District 15 plans to change its schedule for the 2013-2014 school year.

The schedule adjustments relate to when classes begin and end each day, and a final decision on what those changes will look like has not yet been made, according to District 15 Superintendent Scott Thompson.

"We are planning to get out more information and elicit feedback from parents through a survey," Thomspon said. "We also are hoping to have child care options on Wednesday mornings if we implement a late start, so parents who would have difficulty could still have child care options."

District 15 and the Classroom Teacher’s Council (CTC) negotiated the changes in an effort to provided dedicated teacher development time. 

There is a caveat in the contract with CTC, Thompson said, that states there will be a late start for development time, unless there is overwhelming opposition from the community.

According to a release from District 15, teachers will be provided with opportunities for collaborative team/grade/department planning, data analysis, and training for all certified staff during the adjusted times. 

On Wednesdays, the start and end time could be 40 minutes later than it is currently. Meanwhile, on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays, the school day potentially could begin five minutes earlier and end five minutes later in one scenario, according to the District 15 website

District 15 is a teaching and learning community. This new timetable is a win-win for the District,” said Thompson. “Students will maintain the same total instructional hours, even as we are providing our faculty with structured professional development time to enhance their teaching skills.”

CTC President Lisa Nuss expressed how important it is to ensure teachers can reach their full potential through development.

“To achieve our goal of helping each student achieve his or her full academic potential, it is vitally important to provide teachers with time and resources to enhance and develop their own professional practice,” Nuss said.

On the District 15, it states parents were made aware of the changes in mid-December. Additional information on transportation and school-specific schedules will be provided by the end of the school year.

For parents who would like to voice their thoughts, concerns or questions about the proposed changes to scheduling, the next District 15 school board meeting will be held Wednesday, January 16 at 7 p.m. at Sundling Jr. High School, 1100 N. Smith Street.  

Currently, Schaumburg District 54 and Buffalo Grove District 96 are two neighboring school districts that implement similar schedules to accommodate professional development time for teachers.

Neighboring high school districts who also utlize this practice include Township High School District 211 and Township High School District 214.

What do you think of these changes? Do the schedule adjustments present any problems at all for parents?

Information provided by District 15. 

Abdul Javid January 07, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Correct... Personally am in same boat.. not family system to support and both my wife and I work :-) .. Looks like Committee is entrusted with taking feedback from community ( coming weeks ) and that survey results will be shared in Board communication's committee forum on Jan 26th .. location will be shared as well. I think this is big change for parents on wednesday so no decision is made yet on early release or late. We will have to wait for survey and participate in survey & forum proceedings. And yes we should seek how this 40m development is working out..am sure there will be some SMART ( Specific, Measurable,Attainable,Realistic,Timely ) and some metrics , reporting around it year over year or every 6 months or so.
Vicki Wilson January 08, 2013 at 02:21 AM
It turns out the teachers' length of day will not be impacted by this. They will not be working 40 extra minutes as stated previously. Per the contract, available on the District web site: "Adjustment in the Teacher work week so that there is no increase in the Teacher work day, subject to section VII.A.2. This agreement shall be accomplished by reducing the fifteen (15) minutes prior to the school day to five (5) minutes in Section VII.A.2. Such five (5) minutes shall be non- instruction and non-supervisory."
Bucephalus January 08, 2013 at 02:59 AM
Vicki let's talk practicality here. We're all concerned for the "extra time" parents will have to accommodate, but let's look at the teachers' angle too. The teachers may not contractually have to be at work 15 minutes early anymore but I don't believe for a second that there are any teachers who are going to keep exactly the same schedule. I don't think any teachers are going to say "Oh thank goodness I don't have to be there 15 minutes early." I don't try to get to work 5 minutes early. I am to be at work 30 minutes before I have to be there. On a 45 minute commute, those extra 30 minutes often times come in handy. I don't have to be at work 30 minutes early, but I would rather be 30 minutes early than 1 minute late. Kelly and Becky both explicitly used the word "lazy" to describe the teacher in this district. I don't believe that description to be true. Nor do I believe they will all happily show up 5 minutes before the school day. They are going to adjust their schedules by 10 minutes so that they are still there plenty early.
Scott January 08, 2013 at 03:52 AM
Bucephalus - you say it won't happen but obviously it was important enough to the CTC to put in the contract. Just keep in mind the parents take *all* the hit on this issue while the CTC made sure the teachers took none (time wise).
Bucephalus January 08, 2013 at 04:46 AM
Before I bought my house my landlord was a teacher in D15. She had a kid too. The teachers aren't soulless creatures who have no lives outside of school. To say the parents, as opposed to the teachers, are taking "all" the hits just isn't true. The teachers have to adjust their schedules too.
Scott January 08, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Bucephalus - Please fairly and accurately compare and contrast the impact on the parents vs the impact on the teachers.
Abdul Javid January 08, 2013 at 01:14 PM
Following example on CCSD15 site; http://www.ccsd15.net/pages/CCSD15/News/2012-12-13_D15ChangesStartTime 5m early and 5m late for each day except wed for student 40m saved will be used to start late on wed for teacherd developement program.
Scott January 08, 2013 at 02:29 PM
Abdul - the text says "begin 10 minutes earlier on each of the other four weekdays" but the chart shows starting 5 minutes early end ending 5 minutes later each day. I wonder which is correct?
Scott January 08, 2013 at 02:34 PM
Am I understanding the teacher arrival time correctly? Currently my childs school starts at 7:55 am, and the old contract then states the teachers have to be there 15 minutes early - i.e., 7:40 am. (That is when the busses open their doors and the school doors open for students to come in the building). If school will now start at 7:45 does the '15 minutes early' clause mean teachers have to be there at 7:30 am? It appears not based on the clause "This agreement shall be accomplished by reducing the fifteen (15) minutes prior to the school day to five (5) minutes". The staff still has to be there at 7:40 am.
Melanie Santostefano (Editor) January 08, 2013 at 02:48 PM
Hi Scott (and all), I contacted D15 about whether the proposed schedule change would include a school day that begins 10 minutes earlier, or one that begins 5 minutes early and end five minutes later (for M-T-TH-F). This has not yet been decided, according to the deputy superintendent. I am told a committee is working with a number of scenarios, and will be sending out an electronic survey to get feedback from parents by the end of this week. Have a great day. Melanie
Scott January 08, 2013 at 02:57 PM
My concern is around the arrival time of teachers vs arrival time of the students vs start of the school day. Right now there is a 15 minute period between when the students enter the building and when instructional time starts. In that 15 minute period the child has to get to their classroom, put away materials in their locker, go into the classroom, take their chair down off of their desk, turn in their homework to the teacher, etc, and (at Jane Addams) have breakfast. Will there still be 15 minutes for all that or will it be reduced to 5 minutes (based on Vicki's quoting of the new contract)?
Abdul Javid January 08, 2013 at 03:18 PM
Scott, Thanks for noticing the text vs example in table on that link. I contacted D15 Superintendent to update the document so that proposals can be clearly understood; I think we should have somehting like below Now:M-F Student Enter Building: Teachers Arrival Time Instruction Start Time Start: Proposed per contract - 1 scenarios M-T-Th-F Student Enter Building: Teachers Arrival Time Instruction Start Time Start: Wed: M-T-Th-F Student Enter Building: Teachers Arrival Time Instruction Start Time Start: Wed: Teachers Development program start time/End Time. Scenario - 2 like above
Mary D January 09, 2013 at 03:26 AM
@Bucephalus I see in this thread you posted a link to the actual contract. However when I try to access the link it says I need to log on to edline. I know you said you don't work for the district. Can you please let me know what steps you took to gain access to this contract. I would like to do the same. Thank you
Marsha January 09, 2013 at 04:48 AM
I will be there on the 26th with as many people as possible including the kids who will be impacted and left with some random Wed AM childcare mess to ensure this does not happen. Not a single person I know agrees with this. The kids need to have the same schedule each day, no question. Most people in Palatine are dual working household or single parents and they can't be to work late each Wednesday to accommodate this and its really avoidable in my opinion. Please just be reasonable and don't waste people's time on all of this anxiety when we know this can't work. We don't need Palatine parents at a disadvantage in their workplace or our children being disadvantaged in their schooling by schedule disruptions like this.
Bucephalus January 09, 2013 at 04:49 AM
Mary, as you can see on the thread, several other people have accessed the contract as well. I can no longer access it via my link. However, I was able to still access it by googling for it. Here are my steps: 1: Google "Classroom Teachers’ Council Negotiated Agreement" 2: Click on the SECOND link. The first one is the expired 2009-2012 contract.
Chicago Food Guy January 09, 2013 at 07:12 AM
I have to say, I was not notified at all. The first I heard of this was through Patch. Being that my child will be attending a D15 school in the near future, I am in complete disagreement with the altered schedule. Teacher unions have become way too powerful. How about the teachers have a seminar during one of their several months away from work? The extra 40 minutes per week of "dedicated training time" will be mostly spent on eating doughnuts, drinking coffee, and listening to bad jokes. Well done District 15! No wonder ADHD is a growing problem, we as adults can't even have a consistent schedule.
Chicago Food Guy January 09, 2013 at 07:17 AM
*golf clap* Good for you! I've never read a more conceited and self-centered comment, not to mention the grossly assumptions you make about other workers. Do us all a favor and pay more attention to your perfect family before posting nonsense.
Chicago Food Guy January 09, 2013 at 07:22 AM
Becky, I could not agree more.
Chicago Food Guy January 09, 2013 at 07:29 AM
Leaving Palatine is an option.
Chicago Food Guy January 09, 2013 at 07:52 AM
I bet not one educated decision maker in this case has thought about the student and what negative impact it will have on them. Also consider the school bus drivers, how will this impact them? If my math is correct, we are looking at 24 hours of this 'training' for teachers, something I thought they went to school for. If its only 24 hours, they really should consider a one day training session once a month for three months. Get substitute teachers in there to cover for those three days and everyone is happy.
Scott January 09, 2013 at 12:57 PM
I have found direct links into www.ccsd15.net don't work unless you *first* go to the home page of www.ccsd15.net. Then you can take the direct link to the contract.
Parent January 09, 2013 at 01:13 PM
The sad part here is that parents already received communications from the district. At the time, this plan was not put forward as a proposal, but as a decision that had already been made: http://www.ccsd15.net/pages/CCSD15/News/2012-12-13_D15ChangesStartTime I'm glad they're saying they are willing to listen, but they should have had these discussions sooner. I also hope the willingness to listen is genuine and not simply to placate those of us who are voicing our concerns.
LS January 11, 2013 at 08:15 PM
If you would like to sign a petition on this subject, the address for the petition can be found below: http://www.change.org/petitions/ccsd15-school-board-listen-to-constituents-late-arrival-early-dismissal-schedule-enrichment-time-end-of-the-day-friday-no-lost-instruction-time If you would like to fill out the District survey on this topic, the address for the survey can be found below: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/LateStartEarlyRelease
D B L D January 14, 2013 at 12:46 AM
@ Scott you bring up some good comments requireing answers THANK YOU Wih a 7:55 start the busses start unloading at 7:40 when the teachers get to their class rooms giving the students time to take care of all the things you mentioned. "get to their classroom, put away materials in their locker, go into the classroom, take their chair down off of their desk, turn in their homework to the teacher, etc, and (at Jane Addams) have breakfast." With the proposed 10 minute early start that would mean school would start at 7:45. The question would be do the busses arrive at 7:30 to give the students that same time to prepare for their day or do the busses need to wait for the teachers to be in the classrooms and not release until 7:40. OH WAIT THE CTC contract says the 5 MINUTES BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS ARE NON-SUPERVISORY FOR THE TEACHERS. That means the pre-school activities you described will be unsupervised time in the school or the bus release time is 7:45 and the pre-school activities you described become part of the instruction time.
D B L D January 14, 2013 at 12:52 AM
The 1-6 grade teachers already have 30 minutes 4 days per week and a full hour the 5TH day for planning. Junior High teachers have 35-45 minutes(1 class schedule) for individual planning and 35-45 minutes for team planning EVERY DAY. If the intent is for all 3RD grade teachers to coordinate lesson plans , how can a teacher at Paddock (a 1ST tier school) coordinate with a teacher at Lake Louise (a 2ND tier school) when their 40 minute late start is not the same time? There are so many holes in this proposal it is rediculos!!!! These problems don't even consider the child care aspect of all of this. CCSD15 and the CTC please go back to the drawing board.
Sub-Bus January 14, 2013 at 02:11 AM
You people REALLY NEED to go to the upcoming Board of Education meeting this Wednesday January 16th at Walter Sudling Jr high at 7pm 1100 N Smith St., Palatine. You people really need to voice your opinions on the hot topics that are going on in our school district recently concerning our children and parents, The Board of Education on January 10th got two bids to outsource our bus drivers and now the subject of this late start early dismissal of school times, just by showing up to the meeting shows them that the community cares about what's going on. do not wait till the end of the month the sooner we all talk about it the better:))
D B L D January 16, 2013 at 08:56 AM
DUH The administration talks of other school districts having late starts or early dismissal. THEY ARE ON A differant TIER SYSEM. How much SMOKE will the commmunity take from CCSD15 before there are request for resignations? How about the BOE following up on breach of contract or outright violation of state laws??? What about child endangerment? Check out the RFB sent to private bussing companies!! It included route sheets for special needs students (a needed detail) BUT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD CHILDRENS NAMES, ADDESSESS, PHONE NUMBERS AND BIRTH DATES. Who released this private data and who posted it in the RFB on an open web site??????? 1ST and 2Nd graders can get away with an "I'M SORRY" adults, people with responsability, need to be held accountable!!! Accept their resignation or releave them of their position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abdul Javid January 16, 2013 at 01:50 PM
Dist 54 was given as example for privatisation of school buses, but i checked that they were private from the begining, it is not like they had in house and then they moved on to private, i was told 211 tried to privatise and later didnt go with that plan.. can someone check on that please. I think it is important as community we gather all facts, talk to all other dist BOE if they are being cited as examples what their experiences were etc. Upcoming elections community has responsibility to elect 4 Directors, we need to make sure right people are sent so that major decisions are thought through well in advance, discussed with all pros and cons considered from community impact ( Children, teachers, parents, staff etc )
Scott January 16, 2013 at 02:22 PM
D B L D - where can we verify what you are saying about the release of personal data?
Sheila Polcyn January 19, 2013 at 01:44 AM
LS, I respect your efforts but as a working parent an early release or an early start makes no difference - either way I'm left scrambling to find child care & the consistency of my childrens' day is compromised. The classroom sizes are large - of my son's 6 years in District 15, only 2 of those had him in a classroom of less than 30 children. That's very difficult for teachers, but this is their job. In this economy many of us pick up slack because our employers don't hire additional workers. I work overtime and take work home with me. Practically, the extra time won't be used for development – teachers can't attend workshops or train in 40 minutes. The time can be used for staff (math and homeroom teachers, reading specialists, speech paths, etc.) to coordinate lesson plans, address student and /or classroom issues, etc. It gives the teachers a chance to plan their week. In theory that's a worthy cause. I think it can and should be accomplished outside of the already set classroom time. The union in Hinsdale negotiated similar terms for their contract. However, the children’s school day was not affected – it's up to the teachers to determine when they will add the additional time into their day, but the classroom times remain the same. How did that happen? Due to a strong parent base who, instead of insulting others on websites, attend the district meetings and vocally, articulately and respectfully work for their children's best interest. I plan to do the same.


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