District 15 Schedule Change Survey Available, Change.org Petition

In addition to the survey parents have the opportunity to take, there also is a petition on www.change.org created by a District 15 mom who is concerned about proposed changes to the school day schedule.

Updated January 15 at 9:40 p.m. to reflect how different scenarios would look compared to current school schedules. 

A survey is now available to all District 15 parents who are interested in weighing in on proposed changes to the schedule for the 2013-2014 school year.

The start of the survey explains the agreement between the D15 Board of Education and the Classroom Teachers' Council was made to meet new state mandated Common Core Standards, provide for regular student performance evaluations and to gauge teacher effectiveness.

It also states the changes will allow teachers to improve their instruction methods and will decrease the need for substitute teachers that currently allow for teacher professional development time.

Four options are given in the survey as to what the most palatable schedule changes would be for parents. They include:

  • Monday Late Start (40-minutes) 5-minute earlier start on T-F. (loss of one day of instructional time)
  • Monday Early Release (40-minutes) 5-minute earlier start M-F. (loss of one day of instructional time)
  • Wednesday Late Start (40-minutes)10 minutes earlier start M, T, Th, F.
  • Wednesday Early Release (40-minutes) 10-minute earlier start M, T, Th, F.

For example, for proposed late start Wednesdays, if your child's school starts at 7:55 a.m. currently, the new start time would be 8:35 a.m., and on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays, the school day would begin at 7:45 a.m., reflecting a 50 minute difference in start time comparing Wednesdays to the rest of the week.  

In all of the potential schedule changes presented by Disrict 15, Deputy Superintendent Jim Garwood said the district is working off of the current start time for all scenarios.

Pros and cons also are listed for both early start and late dismissal options within the survey.

Negatives for early start include child care issues for working parents, before school activites such as band and orchestra would have to start earlier and the loss of one day of instruction time.

Late dismissal drawbacks also include child care concerns, the loss of one day a week for athletic programs and teachers' ability to provide after school assistance, the loss of one day of instruction time and loss of flexibility for student clubs.

If you are a District 15 parent and have not yet taken this survey, it can be found here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/LateStartEarlyRelease

Change.org Petition

A petition also has been created at www.change.org by parent about how the schedule changes could impact not only students, but working parents.

The petition it titled: CCSD15 School Board: Listen to constituents Late Arrival/Early Dismissal: Schedule enrichment time END of the day FRIDAY. No lost instruction time!

If you are interested in learning more, the petition can be found at: http://www.change.org/petitions/ccsd15-school-board-listen-to-constituents-late-arrival-early-dismissal-schedule-enrichment-time-end-of-the-day-friday-no-lost-instruction-time

The District 15 Board of Education's next meeting is Wednesday, January 16 at 7 p.m. at Sundling Junior High School, 1100 N. Smith Street. 

JT January 14, 2013 at 01:51 PM
Survey does not allow tuesday, thursday or Friday as an option for late start day or early dismissal day. Pros and cons are heavily biased. If every school has to change, why cant day athletics take place change? Why cant athletes be allowed to study in cafetria until activity strats? How can teachers from different schools collaberate when schools have different start and end times? Humting Ridge teachers have different development time than Virginia Lake.
Susan E. Gould January 14, 2013 at 01:52 PM
Susan E. Gould January 14, 2013 at 01:55 PM
Hmm. Why is it if the late start/early dismissal option is on Monday, the survey only added 5 minutes to the other four days, thereby resulting in the loss of one instructional day? Compared to the Wednesday late start/early dismissal adds 10 minutes to all other days. At a minimum, no matter what day incorporates the early start/late dismissal, there should be NO loss of instructional time. Shame on whoever suggested that and let that be part of the District run survey.
G January 14, 2013 at 02:42 PM
I don't like any of these options! Also, I'd like to see how the district would compromise by offering some kind of supervision for the kids on the late start days. Such as allowing parents to drop off their kids at the normal time, but the children have some kind of an activity in the gym or whatever until the class time starts. What about coordinating late starts and early dismissals with programs such as the YMCA which has start and end times in conjunction with the school start times? Has anyone thought about THAT?
Cathie Johnson January 14, 2013 at 02:48 PM
Why is there not an option for "NO CHANGE"???
Shawn January 14, 2013 at 02:49 PM
It has to do with more no school mondays for holidays than wed.
G January 14, 2013 at 02:52 PM
Cathie, I guess they already contracted for the "teacher enrichment" so they backed us all into a corner having to agree to something. This is the most ham-handed initiative I have ever seen.
Shawn January 14, 2013 at 02:57 PM
Cathie that enrichment time was negotiated in the teacher contract. Enrichnment time vs money/benefits. Myself I would have rather paid $20 more in taxes than mess with the kids schedule.
LH January 14, 2013 at 03:03 PM
How about no change, why is that not on the table? There are plenty of school dist. that require the teacher to learn the new standards on their current down time.
Lily 123 January 14, 2013 at 03:08 PM
I don't think it is a good idea to fill out the survey if those times don't work for you. It just gives them data to make sure that those are the days that they use. I will go to the meeting instead.
Kathy O. January 14, 2013 at 04:13 PM
The old way was really no better nor was it cost effective. Teachers were allowed to meet regularly during class time which caused the district to hire and pay substitutes during these 'meetings'. I'm not sure that many parents are aware of that. The subs were not always the same people, so the children didn't learn much on those days - the students received glorified babysitters instead of teachers. I do not want to cave into the union on this one! Teachers should meet after regularly scheduled school days for these meetings - on a Friday. Also, honestly, how much training to they really need? There are teacher institute days already in place. How about training during the winter and summer breaks? Think about it...do you get weekly training sessions at your job in addition to institute days and weeks of vacation? If you did, how much work would actually get done? Not much. This is not about the children, nor is it about making the teachers better educators, it is about the union trying to bully the public. The next time the contract comes up for discussion, we should insist employees be treated like professional, salaried worker who have to put in extra hours when required with no additional pay. Elementary schools do not have athletics or other after school activities. Once again, the union isgoing out of its' way to make a point - our way or you, the taxpayer and parents and chldren will suffer!
Maria Anderson January 14, 2013 at 04:35 PM
I don't know how many "extra hours with no additional pay" is fair to expect from teachers. Their work day does NOT end when students leave, whether they continue working at school or at home. Planning lessons, grading papers, responding to parents' emails and concerns, keeping up with the state's increasing demands for reporting, and more than you can imagine are already hours teachers work "with no additional pay." By that, I mean hours they work that you don't see. Why is everyone so enthused about adding to their Friday afternoons? Would any single one of you be happy to have work time added to your Friday? Teachers have lives outside of their jobs just like the rest of you. I understand the request for care for students during early starts, but take it easy on teachers. They are already putting in a ton of hours outside the classroom.
Kathy O. January 14, 2013 at 05:32 PM
I don't think people are being hard on the teachers, just the union. As far as Fridays, it may help working parents who may be able to leave early from work, thereby making it less of an economic strain in this economy. I understand the teachers work hard, but so do other professionals many who put in additional hours on conference calls and travel for work. Why should teachers be any different? Grading papers, planning lesson plans, and responding to parents' emails and concerns is part of their job and included in their pay. They may not make what they want, but there are also benefits to the profession they chose - summers, winter, and spring break off for example. They are not in school teaching students 8 or 9 hours a day - the normal working schedule for most parents. The hours they teach in school is 5 + 3 hours of time to do the rest of their job for a full day's work. They can stay at school or go home to complete this other part of their workday. My question is, how training do they truly need on a weekly basis? What other training is taking place during the teacher institute days? I also don't like how the union is trying to make it sound like the athletics and clubs will be so negatively impacted. Those clubs only apply to junior high, not on the elementary level.
LS January 14, 2013 at 05:36 PM
Maria - Under the currently agreed upon contract, the teachers would not be putting in any additional time on Friday afternoon. The children would leave 40 minutes early and the teachers would have a meeting each Friday afternoon that ended at the regular daily dismissal time.
LS January 14, 2013 at 05:42 PM
Please sign this petition if you are interested in parents and taxpayers having a voice in the day and time scheduling. If we do not have sufficient signatures, our concerns and opinions WILL NOT be considered. You do not need to be a parent of a student in District 15 to sign the petition. Pass it on... The petition can be found at: http://www.change.org/petitions/ccsd15-school-board-listen-to-constituents-late-arrival-early-dismissal-schedule-enrichment-time-end-of-the-day-friday-no-lost-instruction-time.
Beau January 14, 2013 at 10:45 PM
This is all bull !!!
Beau January 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM
What is summer for or the weekend How much more can a family do ! Get real teach or go get a real job
LH January 14, 2013 at 11:54 PM
the only option that is given on the pettition is a end of day friday.. ANY TIME THAT CHANGES THE SCHOOL DAY FOR OUR CHILDREN IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Other districts require the teachers to learn the new standards on their own time, why shouldnt we.
JT January 15, 2013 at 04:05 AM
The teacher contract says teachers get a schedule change. Only strong community opposition can stop the late start. Teachers are required to show up 15 minutes early this year. Next year they show up 5 minutes early. Teachers' start and end times don't change. It is the childrens' schedule that is being changed, and it is not based on what is best for the kids, parents, and taxpayers. This is a teacher union issue and not all teachers agree with the proposed changes. Signing the petition isn't anti- teacher, it is trying to make lemonade from lemons.
Bucephalus January 15, 2013 at 04:38 AM
I don't understand the "it is about the union trying to bully the public" attitude. Can somebody explain to me how this works? Supposedly being opposed to any change isn't anti-teacher. Ok, that's fine. Excepting Beau, the comments have so far been focused on the issue and not ad hominem attacks on teachers. However, the comments often follow this pattern, and it's a logic I don't follow: 1: We're not attacking the teachers. 2: The union is being evil. 3: Stop the evil union. The teachers are part of D15's union and they elect their representatives. If the teachers didn't support their leadership, they'd elect new leadership. But somehow there's a difference between the teachers and the union? Also, what makes the teacher's union here so evil? Why do they want to "bully the public?" Do people here really think that the District 15 teacher's union just jerk around with the public here because they're evil pricks?
Sheila Tracy January 15, 2013 at 05:53 PM
FYI - from the Agenda Attachments for Wed BOE mtg: DATE: January 16, 2013 TO: Board of Education FROM: Scott Thompson RE: Agenda Item 13-103: Superintendent’s Report LATE START/EARLY RELEASE UPDATE The Late Start Committee issued a survey to elicit parental feedback on the scheduling change for next year. An email was sent to all parents (who provided their email addresses) inviting them to participate. An individual link was included in the email, allowing only 1 response per family. The survey is included for your review. The survey will be open for collecting data through Jan. 21st. I will bring the mid-survey results to Wednesday’s meeting. As you are aware, we will discuss the topic at length with parents at the January 26th Community Forum. We hope that people will wait to discuss the issue at the Forum instead of commenting at the Board meeting.
Scott January 15, 2013 at 06:48 PM
Bucephalus - Actually most teachers I've talked to really don't have much of a clue on what their union is doing. They pretty much blindly support the union, and unless they're willing to run for the union themselves (as I would imagine most people don't want to do) it's pretty hard to then disagree with your union.
Neal January 15, 2013 at 07:11 PM
Bucephalus - if what you say is the case, then how come the teachers I have spoken with aren't for this plan either? You imply the union is doing what the teachers want but it doens't appear that way. So if the teachers don't want it and the parents don't want it, why are we doing it? and who made the choice to? Is it the teachers union? And who are they supposedly working for? the teachers and the parents? this whole issue is riddled with discrepancies that aren't being explained to the taxpayers or the teachers..
Shawn January 17, 2013 at 02:17 PM
I don't think the teachers will agree with after school friday meetings as it cuts into cocktail time. May be they could meet at Lamplighter for there meetings.
Beau January 17, 2013 at 06:54 PM
So agree Shawn When are the teachers going to stand up to the union They could change alot of this Keep taking and taking Talk to the parents when they come in for conference Hear it from the people who pay for them I feel they don't care and they keep getting more
Amy Anderson January 17, 2013 at 07:01 PM
The state is forcing these common core standards on schools with very little notice. I understand not liking the options given, but unless you want the State of Illinois taking over district 15 (and you don't) they need the extra time.


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