POLL: Should Palatine Buy Kostka's Home?

Warren Kostka believes Palatine should purchase his home because of flooding issues.

Palatine resident Warren Kostka believes the village .

Kostka has maintained that a federally mandated project to separate Palatine's sanitary sewer and storm water system in the 1980s resulted in more water heading toward his home. Last week Palatine .

Village officials have said that they have offered to work with Kostka to address issues specific to his property. And they point to regional flood control projects, such as the .

Should Palatine ?

Jim Advance January 09, 2012 at 02:55 PM
Vicki why bring up the new police station as a reason to support poor Warren? The police station has been designed to serve residents for the next 50-100 years. FYI- back in the 60's the Palatine Police Station was nothing more then a three car garage. Their big upgrade was to move into the basement of my old high school for the next 30 years. If you look at all the facilites of the other NW suburbs I am glad the Village Board had the insight to build a facilty that won't be outdated in ten years. The Palatine Police do a great job and deserve their new home. As for Warren the Village has made studies and offeres per my recollection. There is a neighbor of mine whose driveway is below street level and every major rain storm his driveway and garage turn into a swimming pool. This house has experienced everything and more of what Warren has gone thru and he has dealt with solving his flooding problems without turning his house into a war zone. Warren could fix the problems if he would have accepted the Villages help and made an effort to do something constructive instead of destructive. That house's value is nothing more then a teardown because of what Warren has done and failed to do. I have been a resident and taxpayer in this town for almost 50 years and I for one am proud of how this Village has improved over the last ten years. Your should have lived here in the 1960's and you might appreciate the improvments.
Charles January 09, 2012 at 03:03 PM
I would ask if the size of the building they work in determine if they can do their job? The facts are the facts regarding the sewer and draining lines. Poor planning on the Village's part has caused the problem. I experience flooding at my home as well, and the Village has refused to do anything about it. I also have a neighbor that stores business junk at his home, and the Village has done nothing to stop it, despite repeated complaints. Who is runing things at the Village?????
Scott January 09, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Can someone clear up for me why this is this villages fault? (I mean this seriously; I want to understand this better) All I have seen so far is a reference to a *federally* mandated disconnection of the storm and sanitary sewers.
Charles January 09, 2012 at 04:28 PM
If the disconnection of the two resulted in routing one or the other into lines that were not rated to handle the increased load, this would cause flooding. It really isn't that hard to understand.
Scott January 09, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Charles - please don't be condescending to me. I asked why a federally mandated change is Palatine's fault. Shouldn't Mr Kostka be taking the problem up with the federal agencies that mandated the change?
Ellen January 09, 2012 at 06:20 PM
People on the Internet , with just a fraction of the info, LOVE to judge other people. If it's a flood prone area, Palatine never should have allowed building on it. And, if it wasn't flood prone at the time of building, then Palatine shouldn't have allowed additional building in the area without being assured there was proper drainage.
Charles January 09, 2012 at 06:35 PM
Scott, I didn't say it was Palatines fault that the change was mandated by the feds. What you must understand is that no matter what the feds say must change, it is still Palatines responsibility to make sure they don't create a problem in their compliance with the feds changes. This only makes sense, don't you agree? If they make a change to comply, it is their responsibility to make sure they don't create other problems in the aftermath.
Scott January 09, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Not sure I can agree - unless the village can 'opt out' with what the feds mandate I'm not sure you can say "it is Palatine's responsibility..." As I've watched this unfold over the years I've often wondered why Warren simply didn't take the village to court. Let a judge decide who is right and who is wrong. Doesn't that make sense?
Jenny January 09, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Am I missing something? Why wasn't this settled in court years ago? The Village collects permit fees for any home/property modifications made. These fees can be outrageous but are done in the name of safety and 'meeting code'. If this local government has the authority to TAKE money from people in the name of 'protecting its residents' they had better be doing a good job of ensuring this. Therefore, if indeed according to an engineer's opinion there was negligence on the part of the Village, Mr. Kostka should be compensated. If not, then NADA. Either the Village contributed to the mess, or it didn't. --Mr. Kostka should be spending his signage money in court to prove his case instead of just making it a Hollywood spectacle. I don't like to involve the courts, but this is clearly a case of why we do have them.
Jenny January 09, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Unless folks have a civil engineering degree and have studied this particular property, taking all of the changes made into account-- how could they possibly have an opinion either way??? Fellow neighbors, don't use sentiment and emotion to rule your allegiances, use facts, please.
Charles January 09, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Well Scott, you avoided answering my question. As I understand, this problem did not arise until the changes were made by the Village. as such, they inadvertently created a problem in their attempt to comply with the Feds. They apparantly failed to do a proper impact study, and as a result, ended up with this mess. It should be their responsibility to fix it. Remember that BP had to cleanup after their mess.
Scott January 09, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Jenny - Warren Kostka has never taken this to court.
Charles January 09, 2012 at 09:24 PM
I guess the only way this matter will be resolved is if it goes to court. I am not saying the man is right, but I am not saying the Village is right either. There may be fault on both sides. I for one will be doing my own research to find out more about this.
G January 10, 2012 at 06:37 PM
This is a prime example of someone who prides himself on being right over all else. It's like the person who doesn't try to avoid an accident and allows damage to life and property only to make sure the other driver knows he is at fault! Warren has put himself, his family, and his neighbors through needless hardship only so he can be right about it. Well great - he gets to be right, and live a lousy life for the past 25+ years in the same hell hole. What kind of legacy are you leaving in the world Warren? Will Palatine be a better place because of you? Will people remember you for being a force for good, for change in the world? Or only as someone who has a score to settle and looks at life as a battle. Get off it, and start a crusade over something that really matters. Bring your passion for water to Africa and build wells for people who have none. Something, anything other than these bitter rants.
MAS January 10, 2012 at 07:27 PM
My 2 cents, let the house fall down, then condemn the place. End of the day the Village residents will be paying for all of this! Let the place fall apart condemn it, tear it down. Sell the land to a developer and re-coup some money. Sounds mean but Warren Kostka should have done something about this years ago. The one thing we are not short on is Lawyers!
Charles January 10, 2012 at 08:08 PM
This is what is wrong with society today. From what I can tell here, the Village will claim NO responsibility for this mess, let alone Warren. If they both claimed responsibility, maybe a settlement could be reached. From what I have read so far, no-one has mentioned what the Village has offered, if anything to Warren. This information could certainly pursuade me more on way than the other.
Shawn January 10, 2012 at 08:58 PM
"2 wrongs don't make a right" Both parties are partly right and partly wrong. Historically government makes mistakes and people also. After watching the board meeting and the vote. I think Mr Kosta will never get the current village board to purchase his property. If anyone but he owned it the village would buy it. His negative attitude toward staff and trustees has backed him into a flooded corner so now his last card is to get the public outcry from neighbors to persuade the village to purchase his home. In hindsight Mr Kosta you should have treated people like you would want to be treated. If you play with fire you will get burned. Luckily you have plenty of water for the fire.
ChiTownRunnr January 10, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Look, if Warren were as correct as he lets on, he would hire an attorney and have the Village in court. Two problems with that: it costs money and it's probably almost impossible to prove that the Village is at fault (maybe because the Village is not at fault?). For the benefit of Warren's neighbors, the Village should get serious about code enforcement. Engineering work without a permit. Signage that violates village ordinance. Failure to maintain his property in an inhabitable state (by his own admission). Many houses were built years ago before storm water management was a consideration. It's very likely that this house and neighborhood have always flooded. In spite of Warren's bad behavior, he still retains the same remedies available to any of us. His problem will be proving where the fault lies (last time I checked Mother Nature wasn't available for law suits). In the meantime, he can continue to libel and slander many of our elected officials to no avail.
Shawn January 10, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Kosta at the village council is approx the last 30 min of the meeting http://www.palatine.il.us/video/vcmeetings/2012/01-03-2012.aspx
Charles January 11, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Keep in mind that some politicians are just that....politicians. They work hard at doing absolutely nothing. They will spend more time and money just so they don't have to do anything. Sometimes it is better to just do the right thing. I am not saying who is right or wrong in this case, but 20 years of fighting....come on. I ask again, if anyone knows, what has the Village offered to do, if anything about this property?
K.T. January 11, 2012 at 03:54 AM
His property is disgusting-sandbags/partially mowed lawn/driveway dug up and put into piles next to it/black plastic "fencing" by lot line/compost <?> smelly pile by the sidewalk/branches cut entirely off everygreen tree leaving only the trunk w/a sign on it..that is what HE created and NEIGHBORS endure...you get more flies w/honey Warren!! Clean up YOUR mess and maybe someone will listen!!
Charles January 11, 2012 at 08:44 AM
After reviewing the council meeting, I am more prone to leaning on the side of having the drain installed on the property. This is something the Village should have mandated years ago, and their failure to do that has caused additional damae to the house. The Village now does have a responsibility to either purchase the home or assist in the repair of the home as it was partly their neiglence that lead to the additional damage.
Bob January 13, 2012 at 04:25 PM
Scott, I can, maybe. When this work was done after the two properties flooded kiddy corner from Warren, the two flooded properties were purchased by the Village and turned into a "retention pond". The first heavy rain we had after this work was done revealed something was NOT RIGHT with the repair the Village had provided and still exists TO THIS DAY. That something was this... The retention pond never receives water during a storm through the system! There is an entry viaduct in the northwest corner that water DOES NOT enter the retention pond from. ??? Ten feet from the viaduct, in the street, is a manhole. During heavy rain, the manhole rides and wobbles 6 inches in the air with water pushing it off of the ground as that system is overwhelmed, the Village puts horses around it, all while 10 feet away, below grade, water DOES NOT come out of the viaduct. Explain that one. I have questioned this since this repair was completed and the properties south of Wilson, on Forest, still flood during heavy rain. The ONLY water that enters the "retention pond" flows across Wilson from the North ON THE SURFACE, or comes out of the manhole covers in the street. This whole system is somehow compromised, pipes too small, or routed incorrectly. The manhole cover/ viaduct issue has never made any sense, I believe a proper repair is still necessary in the system, I'm sure Palatine knows, but that would cost money. And I don't think Charles was being condescending to you.
Bob January 13, 2012 at 04:40 PM
The Village IS at fault, the system does not operate properly. See response to Scott, above. The Village "engineers" screwed up!
Charles January 13, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Wow Bob, I had no idea of all the facts you stated in your message below, but I suspected as much. Thank you for the kind words BTW. Since it is apparant the Village knows of the problem with the manhole cover (baracades during heavy rains) and the rention pool is not functioning as it should, I am leaning more towards the opinion that the Village should buy the home. I doubt the home was flooding prior to Warrens purchase of the home either, as more than likely any damage that occurred to the home prior to his purchase would have be noticed.
Bob January 13, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Charles, unfortunately a drain would not resolve anything because the issue is that there is no place for the water to go.
Bob January 13, 2012 at 05:56 PM
You've got it, Charles!
Bob January 13, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Ellen, the "repairs" to the system were done 10 - 12 years ago, exacerbating, or creating the issue, these houses have been here for 60-70 years, are you familiar with the area and issue, or just armchair quarterbacking somewhere.
Bob January 13, 2012 at 06:02 PM
And yeah, Mary, you are correct, except we do not have a retention pond, just a place for the kids to play (which is nice).
The Truth January 13, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Let's not lose sight of what Charles said farther up in this thread: "...The person or persons that stole your sign should be ashamed of themselves." "...They also need to make sure to find who stole your sign and prosecute them. Come on Palatine, get with the program and do your JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Regardless of what Mr. Kostka has done to his property, this attack in inexcusable!


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