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UPDATE: 911 Call: Adult Men Beating Boy with a Bat in Palatine

Palatine resident calls 911, says a group of adult men are beating a juvenile with a baseball bat in the street.

UPDATE:

Officers did not find a bat at the 2100 block of N. Heather Lane on Tuesday night, according to Palatine Police Cmdr. Kurt Schroeder.

Original reports from the 911-call card stated a 25-year-old man was found holding at a baseball bat but after speaking to the officers who responded to the fight in progress call, Schroeder said that is incorrect.

Police did not find a baseball bat but that does not mean a beating did not happen. Schroeder said, “If someone calls 911, chances are something happened.” According to Schroder if officers thought there was no real incident the call would have been coded as an “unfounded report,” that did not happen in this case.

ORIGINAL STORY:

The Palatine Police Department responded to a fight in progress call at the 2100 block of N. Heather Lane Tuesday night.

The 911 caller said four to five men were beating a boy with a baseball bat near a white van parked at the Heritage Manor condominium complex.

When police arrived at scene on N. Heather Lane Palatine Police Cmdr. Kurt Schroeder said, “We were told there were a bunch of juveniles were fighting out there.” At the sight of flashing lights, most if not all of the juveniles scattered.

As people began to disperse officers located a group of four to five adult men with one baseball bat near a white van parked at the end of N. Heather Lane, where the street comes to a dead end.

According to Schroeder, a 25-year-old man was holding the baseball bat but officers did not see the man use the bat in the fight. “It was in his hand but he was not using it when officers arrived,” Schroeder said.

Just as the 911 caller reported, Palatine Police Officers located the van, the group of men and the baseball bat, but no victim.

As police began to look for a possible victim officers were quickly cautioned. According to the radio call, at least one of the adult men was known to Palatine's Gang and Tactical Unit. 

The 911 caller could not identify the victim and did not recognize any of the adult men. At the scene the caller asked officers to conceal the information that was initially given during the 911 call, according to Schroeder.

About a dozen people who live in the condominium complex refused to speak about the fight on Thursday afternoon.

One resident who asked to remain anonymous claimed to be a witness to Tuesday night’s beating. With a clear view of N. Heather Lane from the front window, the witness admitted a fight did occur, a baseball bat was used and one juvenile was involved. The witness did not know the victim and did not know the extent of the boy’s injuries.

According to police, no one was transported to the hospital and no injuries were reported Tuesday night. Schroeder said, “If there is no victim, no injuries, really nobody to talk to, there is not much we can do.” Schroeder said no witnesses were available or willing to speak to officers. In an area where there are reports of gang activity, people typically do not want to speak to the police, Schroeder said, “Yea, that’s usually the way things go out there.”

With little to work with, Palatine Police Department concluded its 30-minute investigation at 10:15 p.m. Tuesday.

No arrests were made and no police report was filed. The 25-year-old who was found holding the baseball bat was issued a trespassing warning.

Palman September 07, 2012 at 01:12 AM
Yup, this is around the same area as the Section 8 housing in Rand Grove Village where the killing occured. Hmmm, Palatine Policie Department is just not up to snuff in reducing crime in this area. Oh, Section 8 housing? You cannot rent at Rand Grove Village unless you are on the dole. By the way, I like the way Palatine is cleaning up all the crap hanging out of the balconies in Baldwin Green. Again, no acdtion to clean up the neighborhood. I guess Palatine likes to have a SLUM AREA.
Kelly K September 07, 2012 at 03:08 AM
Isn't there some way Palatine can shut down the section 8 given all of the escalating gang violence over there? Hanover Park did it and all of the lowlifes moved into Roselle. So get rid of the pond scum and hopefully things won't get any worse here. In the absence of a victim and witnesses wliling to help, the police can't do jack. What are they supposed to do? This is one of those times where I firmly believe the witnesses are to blame for not helping keep their community safe. If they are not willing to step up then too bad - crime will continue. Either they help identify the criminals or else live with it!
John Logan September 07, 2012 at 12:04 PM
When we head to Walmart on Rand I always tell the kids we are going to Mexico!
Catherine September 07, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I live in Deerpath Manor and I can attest to the fact that Palatine is going to hell. It's a barrio there now, when we first moved there it was so nice. Schwantz is apparently a goofy liberal, seems to cater to the welfare and illegal crowd. I hate it here and I used to like it. Why don't they clean up those filthy balconies. It looks like a ghetto going down Baldwin!!!!!!!! I never bring anyone over coming off Dundee, I always go around to Lake Cook where at least it looks normal. Palatine is off my list as soon as I can leave. Frustrated citizen.....
Roman G. Golash September 07, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Palatine will soon become like most of Chicago, violent crimes taking place on a daily basis, the response will be muted. We dare not offend the perpetrators, yet our police (they are very good and dedicated officers) do not try to mobilize the citizens. It is time to protect ourselves.
Digs September 07, 2012 at 05:21 PM
The ghetto area gets more crowded due to the culture not believing in birth control. Soon it could spill over to the south side of Dundee, spreading throughout town.
J DeCea September 07, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Downtown is still great!
CD Bloom September 08, 2012 at 02:09 AM
Downtown, and most of town, is great! Don't blame the police- most of them are as frustrated as we are. I would suggest that every person spend at LEAST one day at the Cook County Court House to watch the proceedings. LEARN how our government (doesn't) work. An eviction in Cook County is almost impossible for a landlord to win without going bankrupt or being afraid for his/her life. As for "Section 8"- Please understand that it is Federal Legislation with multiple and varied programs administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. In order to receive certain federal monies, villages must comply with a percentage of housing affordable to a percentage of their population. It's all numbers. Convincing the bureaucrats(politicians) to accept accountability and enforce rules at the risk of losing votes is a losing proposition. The rules for compliance for receiving housing assistance can be found at www.HUD.gov
Shawn September 09, 2012 at 01:45 AM
It is interesting that the village is very concerned with balconies and what is on them in in the downtown area. A bicycle is taboo in downtown but little mexico has the balconies used as storage facilities. Palatine also does a lousy job of building code enforcement in that area. Many 3 bedroom apts with 6 to 8 residents is the norm over there.
BossladyJones September 11, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Every apartment complex on that side of palatine has been shot to hell bascially. all the gang violence is getting out of control. the are bascially letting the kings and the fos dominate palatine. HELLO NEW SOUTH SIDE!
CD Bloom September 11, 2012 at 03:20 PM
You forgot to mention the Four Corner Hustlers, Conservative Vice Lords, and, very possibly, the wives and families of members of the more violent Mexican cartels that are supplying our small distribution centers. At its highest level, it's an amazing network of brilliant corporate economics. A true example of how business works when Big Government keeps a "hands off" approach. Unfortunately, Big Government has chosen to put its hands all over honest business, destroying it, and leaving no funding to attack violent and criminal businesses.
Meg September 13, 2012 at 03:50 PM
but how many are here illegally getting money for housing? Our money is subsidizng all of this.
CD Bloom September 13, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Unless they are staying with legal family members, they are not receiving federal housing subsidy. The illegal ones are actually the ones that work hard, keep their children in line and out of trouble, insisting that they study and do well in school. Often, the gang violence is encouraged and perpetrated by the "legals" because they know they are protected by the law.
Mrs.Evans September 13, 2012 at 05:42 PM
You are what is wrong with this country. Teaching our kids about racial prejudice! I feel bad for them. I hope they don't grow up and fall in love with an "illegal" then what are you going to do!
Mrs.Evans September 13, 2012 at 05:44 PM
Do you really think people enjoy living on section 8?? Aside from financial aid have you actually been inside these apartments?? No one ever wishes to live there they live there because they have to do with ends meet. Please educate yourself before you state an opinion.
Mrs.Evans September 13, 2012 at 05:45 PM
No Palatine does not like slum. You are the slum for thinking like that. I pray you never fall in your financial debt and find yourself living in a similar predicament as these people may have.
Mrs.Evans September 13, 2012 at 05:47 PM
Everyone is frusturated not just you! Instead of balming people for how the property looks blame the government.
Mrs.Evans September 13, 2012 at 05:48 PM
It is not due to the culture you idiot. It is due to not having medical insurance to cover birth control. In case you haven't notice there's a ghetto everywhere!
Mrs.Evans September 13, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Look before everyone starts to talk trash about people first educate yourself. Not everyone who lives in those areas are bums, freeloaders or illegals. The property looks like that because there is no money to fix it. People do not want to live in those filthy apartments trust me! They live there because they cannot afford the simple luxuries. The violence is apparent because most of these kids parents are out working 10-12 hour days just to afford food. These kids are left without supervision and boredom kicks in. The police cannot do anything if the community does not come together only until then will we clean up that area.
CD Bloom September 13, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Mrs. Evans, you are correct. The community, the entire community, MUST be willing to work together to find solutions to the problems in our society. What we are talking about in these comments are only "sound bites" of frustration. Every one of us should educate ourselves on how zoning, law enforcement, government, and other social agencies work and are paid for. And we should hold our elected officials and the departments they oversee accountable for enforcing the rules. No one should insult an entire neigborhood based on what they see when driving through it. Not every one of those apartments is filthy on the inside. Every family has its own story. In the Northwest quadrant of Palatine, not all homes are rented, not all are subsidized, and not all are occupied by low income, uneducated or immigrant families. If you are really concerned, find out who is the taxpayer of record for the building in question. File a complaint with the appropriate authorities. Follow the proper channels. Create an advocacy group. Those who have no other place to live and are afraid for their safety will thank you for helping them and for caring.
Brenda Shields September 14, 2012 at 06:58 PM
You don't need medical insurance to buy a box of Trojans Mrs. Evans.
Brenda Shields September 14, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Mrs. Evans will do nothing of the sort because that would mean work on her part. She is only on this board to complain about what a bunch of uneducated souls we are because we had the audacity to complain about the ghetto part of Palatine. Mrs Evans only cares about making excuses. I assume because she also must live near by or has been in a similar situation. There is always a choice Mrs. Evans. You either choose to be affiliated with gangs, or you don't. You choose to keep your home looking like a train wreck inside or out, or you clean it. These are easy choices. However, the landlords of these properties do a horrible job of weeding out the riff raff, maintaining their buildings, and making them safe. The Police do a horrible job of patrolling those high crime areas. (How many times do we see them driving through the nicer parts of town, and totally neglecting the eye sore where the real crime is happening? Another example is two squads in a business parking lot and the Officers just chatting?) The Police need to make their presence known and felt in these areas. The landlords need to do a better job of maintaining their buildings. Mrs. Evans - you need to stop making excuses.
Mrs.Evans September 14, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Thank you that was all I was trying to say "No one should insult an entire neigborhood based on what they see when driving through it. Not every one of those apartments is filthy on the inside." I have filed several complaints myself. I will continue to do so because I know the community can do better. Have a great day!
Mrs.Evans September 14, 2012 at 08:12 PM
Brenda, I am not on here only to complain. But I find it ironic how your whole comment is directing to me. Isn't that what you are doing about me? I thought so. If you must know I grew up in that exact area! So yes, I am quick to defend it. Everyone is so quick to judge and group everyone into one category and ASSUME they are bums. Well, for your information after finishing Palatine High School I moved out, pursued a college career at NIU through loans and am now obtaining my masters at Roosevelt. So I completely agree with you we all have choices. Some people choose to be lazy some go out to work. What I cannot let happen is having people like yourself and whoever else is reading this feel the same way about people living there. CD Bloom is the only one with common sense.
Mrs.Evans September 14, 2012 at 08:12 PM
Either way the whole community needs some major attention and not the negative kind. I decided to move back to Palatine for that reason. I am involved in that community. I know a lot of the officers who have to deal with the sec 8. We put up a lot of activities for the families. What are you doing to help? No one is making excuses in fact majority of the readers here are the first ones to speak very negatively about the area but would dare not work for them to get it cleaned up. Be there do some community work, show some empathy while you are at it and just maybe little by little the community will know we care. And as a WHOLE Palatine will get better.God bless! (Sorry for the lengthy response and my life story)

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