He screwed up again. Our gain!

Paul Ryan is well regarded in his district and in the Congress as a detail man, a sharp intellectual and someone who cares for the people in his community. He has been elected 7 times in the overwhelmingly Democratic area because he serves the district well. In Washington, he is known as one of a handful of politicians who understands the details of Washington finances.

He is a far better candidate than Joe Biden. I think this election will be a cakewalk for the Republicans. Besides the Democrats are whistling past the graveyard now as it is because they don't have a decent record to stand on, so they just make false accusations and lie about Romney.

I think this spells the end for the Dems--about damn time too.

An inspiring choice for a vice-presidential candidate made by Mitt Romney. Congressman Ryan is the most knowledgeable person in America on the US budget. Paul Ryan is the right man at the right time. Mitt Romney's choice for vice-president shows that the Romney Administration will be serious about addressing the deficit and the debt. President Romney will put America back on the right track.

Quite frankly though, any stray cat in America would have done a better job than Obama these last 3-1/2 years. Obama-Worst.President.Ever. The recession in America ends the evening of election day.

Can't wait for the debates. ..

So Abigail, Romney did not accuse Obama of restricting voting for military personnel in Ohio, and he didn't say that Obama is going to take the work requirement out of welfare, and Romney didn't take Obama speeches, cut out sections, and then splice the words to make it seem Obama said something that he really didn't? No, Romney's been completely honest in this campaign, right?

So it's okay for Romney to make blatantly false comments? No presidential election is terribly clean, but some of Romney's claims are pure fiction not based on any reality.

Great choice, now we can talk about the real issues like a bad economy from bad policy, instead of side show contrived Democrat playbook ones.

I guess this is Obama's fault-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/aug/10/illinois-workers-bain-outsourcing?newsfeed=true

Romney clearly pandered to the right wing social conservative base. Picked Ryan despite his (Ryan's) desire to end Medicare as we know it and cut entitlement programs when they are most needed. Planned Parenthood gives Ryan a big fat Zero rating and The Human Rights Organization gives him a big fat Zero. The NRA gives him a......100. Right down the right hand alley Mittons.

First Mitt Romney, and now Paul Ryan? Are the Republicans trying to lose the election in November on purpose??

Obama / Biden 2012. "Continuing to clean up the mess of the Republican Great Recession."

Obama/Biden 2012!

If you believe a voucher system is going to solve everything then vote for Romney!
If you don't believe medicare, social security, or even our post office system. Then vote for Romney. If you believe privatizing and deregulating is a solution, then vote for Romney.
If you believe the rich need bigger breaks than vote for Romney.
If you believe food stamps are bad, then vote for Romney
If your okay with outsourcing jobs, then vote for Romney.
If you believe using loopholes to avoid paying taxes, then vote for Romney.
If you think avoiding taxes, by hiding money offshore is great, then vote for Romney.

You may want to look up the Libor scandal, Rich.

The economy has gotten better imo. The economy would have been even better if the republicans goals weren't to make him one term president!

You see, Rich, that's why you're a fraud. What Libor did absolutely hurt the economy to no end, yet you are so narrow-minded and fixated on blaming democrats for everything wrong in the world, you can't even consider the evidence. And whether you choose to believe the stimulus, the GM bailout, and healthcare is the reason for today's economy, you are simply misinformed. Some how I have to believe there are other reasons for you losing your home. Where's that personal responsibility?

A favorite of the Koch brothers, Ryan has accused scientists of engaging in conspiracy to “intentionally mislead the public on the issue of climate change.” He has implied that snow invalidates global warming.

Ryan has voted to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from limiting greenhouse pollution, to eliminate White House climate advisers, to block the U.S. Department of Agriculture from preparing for climate disasters like the drought devastating his home state, and to eliminate the Department of Energy Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA-E):

Ryan’s budget, which means austerity for most Americans, turns out to mean prosperity for Ryan and his family.
That budget, which the GOP-led House adopted as its blueprint, slashes funding for everyone from seniors to the disabled to students while preserving $45 billion in tax breaks and subsidies for Big Oil over the next 10 years, as has been widely reported.
But what we have only just learned from Ryan’s financial disclosure forms for Congress (here) that were made public this week is “he and his wife, Janna, own stakes in four family companies that lease land in Texas and Oklahoma to the very energy companies that benefit from the tax subsidies in Ryan’s budget plan,” as The Daily Beast reported today.
Ryan’s father-in-law, Daniel Little, who runs the companies, told Newsweek and The Daily Beast that the family companies are currently leasing the land for mining and drilling to energy giants such as Chesapeake Energy, Devon, and XTO Energy, a recently acquired subsidiary of ExxonMobil.
These energy giants stand to profit directly from the $45 billion in subsidies and tax breaks. How cozy!
Ryan’s office says the congressman wasn’t thinking about himself or the oil companies that lease his land when he drafted the budget blueprint that extended the energy tax breaks. “ Now Ryan’s office says he has no control over his ethics where family is concerned. Apparently nobody ever explained to him what conflict of interest means.
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Richard-you are kidding about global warming being a hoax.-right?

kelly brand: "Richard-you are kidding about global warming being a hoax.-right?"

"The problem with liberals is not that they know so much, but that they know so much that isn't true" Ronald Reagan

You have to be really gullible to believe in man-made global warming. If global warming is occurring, the Sun (or perhaps the Earth's wobble) is the cause. Not much we can do about the Sun.

Drill, drill, drill. . . . .

Sorry if you believe the keystone pipeline, is going to fix your problems. How about blaming yourself? Lack of insight can be a killer. By the way, what's more valuable to life, oil or water? Personally I would never want to drink any amount of oil! What about the crop fields that need the water? What about the fish, cattle, and any other life in these area? Your points are just based on greed for yourself! Your logic is more than sad, its actually pathetic!

Nice try! I'm all for business, but I also support responsibility. You support business, but you also support a free for all for the corporations! No responsibility should be your motto, since you believe businesses will never do any wrong..

Joe Richardson: "Just yesterday, Sully tried to tell everyone he doesn't hurl insults directly at people."

Just for the record, here are all of Sully's comments on Patch. He's quite a delightful human being. His dogs growl at him whenever he comes near. So does his wife.

http://evanston.patch.com/users/sully-6/comments?page=3

Sully, 11:07 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

"How very adult of you to criticize someone for not knowing the exact laws for gun ownership. I don't own a gun, so I don't really need to know everything. Rick, since your mental age seems to be about 11, I'll do you the favor of ignoring the rest of your comments. You're welcome."

Sully reminds me of Mr. Potter in "It's a Wonderful Life".

Joe, your comment to Nick is totally irrelevant. Just like Richard, you ignore what others say by responding with what? Nothing.

Nick: "Sorry if you believe the keystone pipeline, is going to fix your problems. How about blaming yourself? Lack of insight can be a killer. By the way, what's more valuable to life, oil or water? Personally I would never want to drink any amount of oil! What about the crop fields that need the water? What about the fish, cattle, and any other life in these area? Your points are just based on greed for yourself! Your logic is more than sad, its actually pathetic!"

Nick, before you write, you might want to have some idea of what you're writing about. There are already oil and gas pipelines all across the US, including Nebraska. The Keystone XL pipeline will just be one more. If you want to see where all those pipelines are, try Google.

Will oil and gas production solve our unemployment problems? Look at the unemployment rate in North Dakota and Texas. There is a boom in eastern Ohio and West Virginia too. Canada left the world-wide recession behind 2 years ago with developing its energy resources. If we don't want Canada's oil, the Chinese will take it and use it.

If you want to know what oil and gas does for an economy, take a look at the opulent societies of the UAE.

Pipelines are the safest means of transporting oil and gas. Not building the Keystone XL means that oil and gas will be transported by (Warren Buffet's) railroad. If you're concerned about the environment, then the KXL pipeline is the environmentally sound way to go.

Just stay away from the water and be careful of those earthquakes in Ohio due to fracking! Otherwise, no problem!

Hey Rich, in case you don't know the difference, my question is legitimate. Yours is juvenile hogwash. Just the same old tired responses, Rich. All you've got is what Rush tell you. Hey here's a question maybe you can answer - David Barton: genius historian or history revisionist? Your move, buddy! Then maybe we can move on to some of the facts about Romney's and Ryan's quest to leave no millionaire behind. Wonder how much money the Kochs are going to be pouring in now. With all that money, and voter disinfranchisement, Romney may have a chance. By the way, did you see Fox's latest poll (before Ryan, anyway) Obama up by nine. Rasmussen is about the only poll not in Obama's favor. But polls don't really mean much this time of year, so who's counting?

Funny how Sully was touting "personal responsibility," in a post above, yet it's mostly his Democratic pals who are colleting welfare and popping out 4 or 5 kids on your tax dime and voting for Obama, in many cases, for that reason alone.

Yep, that's personally responsible.

Another mature comment by Joe. Very impressive. I wonder how old you are.

Exactly stay from the water! Till then I don't trust these corporations. How did the fracking go for those people, which own homes with natural gas coming thru the faucet? How much do these folks have to pay. for clean drinking water now? What about their home values? What about all the contaminants that effect the environment now? Not only people!

Funny how in almost every post Sully makes I can point out specifically where he's being hypocritical.

So predicatable.

Now he will deny being hypocritical, ask for a specific instance where he was being hypocritical, even though I just gave an example.

If that doesn't work, he'll whine that it was all Bush's fault, or insult someone personally on here, then get mad when someone does it to him.

If that doesn't work, he will change the subject.

If that fails, he'll find a link to something that bolsters his point, but ignores key facts or fails to tell the whole story.

Maybe he's really Obama posting under the name Sully. he sure misleads people and lies enough to be.

Un huh. I'm always blaming Bush. If that's true, it shouldn't be hard to point out an occasion in which I've done that. You have no clue Joe. None at all.

It is time to talk about the two years where Obama had complete reign over our country, passed everything and anything he wished, and what do we have? Record debt, downgraded credit, record unemployment, record foreclosures. Lets see when Reagan was elected we were somewhere near 9% GDP. Any questions?

Ugh! Now the Republican ticket is twice as bad and Obama's bid twice as easy!

Hey Joe R. Enjoy these facts.
Who gets welfare? This is where the race issue enters. Contrary to popular perception, the recipients of TANF are about equally divided between whites, blacks and Hispanics. According to the Department of Health and Human Services, in 2009 the TANF rolls were 31.2 percent white, 33.3 percent black, and 28.8 percent Hispanic. Yet the primary image of a "welfare recipient" in most people's mind is a black woman. This has been demonstrated in study after study by political scientists, psychologists, and communication scholars. Most Americans not only drastically overestimate the proportion of welfare recipients who are black, they also tend to believe that welfare makes up a huge proportion of the federal budget, when in fact it accounts for less than 1 percent of federal spending. As Donald Kinder and Cindy Ham wrote in Us Against Them: Ethnocentric Foundations of American Opinion, "means-tested programs like AFDC and food stamps are understood by whites to largely benefit shiftless black people." The racialization in perceptions of welfare is reinforced by the news media, which usually use images of black people to illustrate stories about welfare and poverty (Martin Gillens' Why Americans Hate Welfare: Race, Media and the Politics of Antipoverty Policy is the most complete examination of this topic).

I'm not much into videos, but this one is excellent: A Cancer Within the Presidency

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSYT53NMug

Romney picking Ryan is a indication that the Republicans are throwing in the towel on the presidential election, hoping to hold the house and positioning Ryan for 2016. They've essentially conceded 2012.

The state of politics in America reflects the quality of our government. Both are a disgrace and an embarrassment to the American people. Fortunately we do not get all the government we are paying for otherwise we would be even more embarrassed and ashamed.

The quality of 80%-85% of this discussion sounds just like politics. Unsupported accusations, statement and assertions without fact. Less than substantive claims. Etc.

No one listens to the other person or what they are really saying. Again, much like our government.

No one seems to want to understand the other side before commenting back with some small particle of an argument expecting that to suffice.

The name calling sounds much like both politics and the 5th grade playground.

How can we expect the politicians to raise the bar and be both factual and honest in their representations if the quality of the dialogue across the country is well represented in this series of comments?

I think most people realize that America is in serious trouble. The blame resides on both sides of the aisle. The blame resides with both political parties. The blame resides with multiple presidents, going back to the Johnson administration. The blame belongs to the American people for not demanding more.

America needs a leader. Someone who can inspire, direct, and pull us out of the problem we face. Who is that person?
The quality of 80% of the discussion

Paul Ryan’s extreme budget would end Medicare as we know it, turning it into a voucher program which would increase seniors’ health costs by $6,350 a year. Ryan has also proposed a plan that would have privatized Social Security, subjecting seniors’ retirement security to the whims of the stock market.

Paul Ryan:

"We won’t duck the tough issues . . . we will lead!

We won’t blame others…we will take responsibility!

We won’t replace our founding principles . . . we will reapply them!"

Thumbs up. That's what we want to hear.

@Nick: 95 percent of Republicans don't listen to a thing Rush has to say. Nice try.

Here's an idea: Try learning how to construct a proper sentence before being critical of others.

Another clown bringing up Bush. Excuses, excuses.

Nick: "Easy to please, when someone preaches every you hear on Rush. Rush's radio is the gospel according to republicons!"

Rush Limbaugh is not a Republican. Rush is a small government conservative. (I'm not a Republican either.)

Democrats are clueless as to what Rush is about. Democrats are also clueless as to what the TEA party is about. That's fine with me-not surprised that Democrats don't understand what's going on.

A little analysis by John Fund:

"First, if Ryan is an extremist and his proposals are so unpopular, how has he won election seven times in a Democratic district? His lowest share of the vote was 57 percent — in his first race. He routinely wins over two-thirds of the vote. When Obama swept the nation in 2008, he carried Ryan’s district by four points. But at the same time, Ryan won reelection with 65 percent of the vote, meaning that a fifth of Obama voters also voted for him."

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/313732/smart-democrats-should-be-worried-john-fund

Paul Ryan:

"...And we've been talking about how much we agree on different issues, but there really is a difference between us. And it's basically this. We don't think the government should be in control of all of this. We want people to be in control. And that, at the end of the day, is the big difference..."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/paul_ryan_and_the_triumph_of_math.html#ixzz23KYy5fnF

Another Paul Ryan quote:

"...America is not just a nationality it's not just a mass of land from Hawaii to Maine, from Wisconsin to Florida. America is an idea. It's the most pro-human idea ever designed by mankind. Our founders got it right, when they wrote in the Declaration of Independence that our rights come from nature and nature's God - - not from government. Should we now subscribe to an ideology where government creates rights, is solely responsible for delivering these artificial rights, and then systematically rations these rights?"[/quote]

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/paul_ryan_and_the_triumph_of_math.html#ixzz23KZRkRB9

A little more analysis from American Thinker:

"A staggering 51 percent of those who graduated from college since 2006 don't have a full-time job, according to a recent study. Ironically, these are the same voters who mobbed the polls for Obama in 2008, giving him a significant part of his winning margin."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/ryan_pick_targets_key_demographic.html#ixzz23Kd4unvf

"This is very important: Ryan gets under Obama's skin. He is smarter and better informed than the President. Already, the GOP is beginning to go after Obama's likability as a result of the outrageous cancer ad they won't condemn, lied about, and of course teed up. Romney talked of the nasty campaign today. They will try to set up a comparative message of a vision for growth versus the gutter, which is pretty accurate at this point. Already some evidence of backlash against cancer ad in tracking polls this week. I think Ryan will sell better than negative Bain ads at this point."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/the_ryan_rollout.html#ixzz23KoFvqCr

So it's a campaign with a vision vs. a smear campaign. Even if President Obama were to be re-elected, he wouldn't be able to govern after running a smear campaign. It would be 4 more years of hell.

With the Republicans holding the House and taking the Senate (that's a foregone conclusion), the Obama Administration would be a 4 year lame-duck administrations.

Face it Democrats, the 2012 election is already over. The Democrats lost the 2012 election on election day in 2008.

Another venue for the extremists from the right and left to argue. Patch is a site for local news and not national politics. How about some editorial control! Below is a description of Patch from their website.

"What is Patch?
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R&R are dead in the water. Barack will win again. This discussion is a waste of time and total folly. Find something better to do with your short lives.

Paul Ryan "slices and dices" Obamacare to Obama's face in this C-Span video:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/ryan_and_obama_have_mixed_it_up_before.html

Very politely, Ryan calls Obama a liar to his face. Who was right about Obamacare, Obama or Ryan? Don't need to watch the video to know the answer to that question. It's sad to say this, but President Obama has been lying to the American people for 3-1/2 years.

JK
I've read all this commentary and to be honest it makes me sick! All I'm interested in is who's going to clean up our mess. I'll be listening and watching and I guess praying we come up with a good answer.

I hear ya JK

Take 10 minutes and watch this...even if it's 10% true...it should scare the he'll out of all of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqHSkYG-Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sully: "If the voter ID laws are not struck down in those swing states with republican governors, it could be a very difficult election for Obama."

In other words, if the Democrats are not permitted to cheat, Obama could be in trouble.

Should dead people be allowed to vote? Should felons in prison be permitted to vote? Should dogs and cats be permitted to vote? Should illegal aliens be permitted to vote? Should nursing home residents with dementia be allowed to vote? The Democrats think so. The Democrats also think that they should be permitted to vote as many times as they want.

If you want to know how Democrats play the game, read about the 1948 Democrat primary campaign for senate in the State of Texas between Lyndon Johnson and Coke Stevenson. Lyndon Johnson became the Democrat Senate candidate in 1948 by buying votes in counties along the Rio Grande. When Johnson got caught stealing votes, he lawyered up and denied that any votes were purchased.

Here's the story from The New York Times. If it's the NYT, it must be true, right Sully.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/how-johnson-won-election-he-d-lost.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Terri Chaseley: "Holy hell, this Richard Schulte is one of the scariest paranoids I've encountered on these threads. I don't comment often, but this is outrageous. Facts mean absolutely nothing to you, Richard. The devastating effect of fracking is NOT a hoax."

"The crux of the matter is there is no concrete evidence supporting the claim. Dozens of federal agencies, including the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Occupational Safety and Health Administration, have not been able to produce justifiable evidence that links fracking to serious environmental consequences. The U.S. Bureau of Land Management has also failed to solidify any scientific data that would lead to harsher regulations."

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/brighammccown/2012/08/10/fracking-regulations-stalled-despite-lack-of-evidence/

How many times do the environmentalists have to "cry wolf" before we stop believing anything that they say. Man-made global warming is a hoax. All this nonsense about fracking is nonsense too.

Rember the Gulf oil spill 2 years ago. Where did all of that the oil go? Hmmmm, there are bacteria in the ocean that eats oil. Oil leaks from the bottom of the ocean occur everday and nature takes care of it. Ain't no big deal. Nature took care of it.

BTW, I started using BP gasoline because of the oil spill. If BP had been left to fix the leak, the leak would have been shut down quickly. The Coast Guard screwed it up-SNAFU.

More on fracking:

"The Environmental Protection Agency has dropped its claim that an energy company contaminated drinking water in Texas, the third time in recent months that the agency has backtracked on high-profile local allegations linking natural-gas drilling and water pollution."

"In addition to dropping the case in Texas, the EPA has agreed to substantial retesting of water in Wyoming after its methods were questioned. And in Pennsylvania, it has angered state officials by conducting its own analysis of well water—only to confirm the state's finding that water once tainted by gas was safe. "

April 1, 2012 WSJ

Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303404704577313741463447670.html

30 years ago, I used to be a member of the Sierra Club-no more. I'm beginning to believe you environmentalists are simply kooks. No, wait, that's not true. I started thinking that about 10 years ago.

I don't believe a word that environmentalists say anymore. Aesop's Fable about "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" applies. Environmentalists have "cried wolf" so many times, I stopped listening a long time ago.

Gas and Oil pipeline maps for North America. Hmmm, there are already pipelines all over the place. The horse is out of the barn already. The Keystone XL pipeline would just be another pipeline-no big deal.

http://www.google.com/search?q=oil+pipeline+map+north+america&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_9wnUJHPKITiqgG_24DYCQ&ved=0CGEQsAQ&biw=943&bih=465

Deny, deny, deny. Facts don't matter. How intelligent do you need to be to know that 2 million gallons of chemical dispertant and 4.1 million gallons of oil are going to have a permanent effect on our ecosystems? My 5-yr-old could figure that out. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2012/04/pictures/120420-gulf-oil-spill-impact-studies/ http://www.sacbee.com/2012/08/10/4713658/bp-sponsored-gulf-of-mexico-research.html http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/07/30/30greenwire-oil-spill-dispersants-shifting-ecosystem-impac-95608.html

Terri Chasely: "Facts don't matter. How intelligent do you need to be to know that 2 million gallons of chemical dispertant and 4.1 million gallons of oil are going to have a permanent effect on our ecosystems? My 5-yr-old could figure that out."

I wonder if your 5 yr-old has an engineering degree. I do, along with 35 years of experience. Do you have any idea how large the Gulf of Mexico actually is? Concentration of chemicals matter.

Many foods and water contain arsenic. Of course, arsenic is a toxic chemical. The reason that you don't die when you drink water or eat foods which contain asenic is that the concentration of arsenic is so tiny that it has no impact on the body. In fact, I recall reading that the human body actually needs an extremely tiny amount of arsenic to survive.

As previously noted, oil leaks from the ocean floor continuously. Oil is part of the ocean eco-system. A little oil in the ocean ain't no big deal. Think of all the ships and airplanes that are in the oceans from the WW I and WW II-these ships and airplanes contain oil and oil products and there are still fish in the ocean.

Of course, being an environmental kook, you wouldn't know that. And, if you're really concerned about the environment, you'd be screaming about the CFL bulbs that contain mercury and be trying to get them banned-but, facts don't matter to idiots.

Naturally, didn't take the time to read the articles posted to read evidence that the oil spill has had an impact on our oceans. They would not mesh with your delusional ideology. Oil seeping from the ocean floor is not the same as 4.1 million gallons pouring out. I didn't realize you had a science degree, which would of course be revoked since science is based on facts and evidence. And, the FACTS show that fracking is killing people/animals. You have no idea what environmental issues I "scream" about. Global warming isn't man-made just like smoking doesn't cause lung cancer. Let me guess, that's a hoax too.

To quote Jeremy Grantham, manager of the $100B GMO fund:

Conspiracy theorists claim to believe that global warming is a carefully constructed hoax driven by scientists desperate for ... what? Being needled by nonscientific newspaper reports, by blogs, and by right-wing politicians and think tanks?... Being a climate scientist spokesman has already become a hindrance to an academic career, including tenure. I have a much simpler but plausible “conspiracy theory”: that fossil energy companies, driven by the need to protect hundreds of billions of dollars of profits, encourage obfuscation of the inconvenient scientific results.

Challenging vested interests as powerful as the oil and coal lobbies was never going to be easy. Scientists are not naturally aggressive defenders of arguments. In short, they are conservatives by training: never, ever risk overstating your ideas. The skeptics are far, far more determined and expert propagandists to boot. They are also well funded. That smoking caused cancer was obfuscated deliberately and effectively for 20 years at a cost of hundreds of thousands of extra deaths… The profits of the oil and coal industry make tobacco’s resources look like a rounding error. In some notable cases, the obfuscators of global warming actually use the same “experts” as the tobacco industry did! The obfuscators’ simple and direct motivation – making money in the near term, which anyone can relate to – combined with their resources and, as it turns out, propaganda talents, have meant that we are arguing the science long after it has been nailed down. I, for one, admire them for their P.R. skills, while wondering, as always: “Have they no grandchildren?”"

Rich, your engineering degree does not mean you are an expert on every single aspect of engineering. Seems to me your specialty is maybe wiring buildings and making sure fire risks do not occur. I'm sure you'll correct me however.

Amd I'm sure you keep up to date by going to seminars, taking a few classes, reading up on the newest technology. That's not likely though since you take arguments from the 40's and 70's and think they're still valid today. Another question- how exactly are building fires the same as climate change?

Total bull, Rich.

Hope and change .......is for the sheep. 5 trillion later, thats a 50% increase in debt in 3.5 years. America was not built on dependecy and handouts.

The chicago way, the illinois way, is total failure.

Richard, we are not in the 1970s or the 1940s. This is 2012 and there have been quite a few discoveries, improvements, and technologies since those years. You continue to use a Time magazine article (?) to try to prove you're right, just as you quote Reagan over and over and over again. I don't know-maybe you never got a current calendar, but we are not in the 70s and Reagan is not the president.

I'm still waiting for a legitimate response to the many questions I have asked you. Possibly ignoring them? Naw, couldn't be that.

Just like Obama's buddies have made out like the bandits that they are.....4 more years and the USA will be barkrupt too.

It must end.

A. M. K.: "Not so much, Abigail, what the right wing hate to admit is that President Obama found and killed America's NUMBER ONE Enemy AND saved the Auto Industry whereas Romney's response to bin Laden was it "wasn't worth" paying a lot of money to "find one man", even though "that one man" was the cause of TWO wars and THOUSANDS of Americans murdered on 9/11,,,He wanted our Auto industry to go BANKRUPT, too....But why should we expect anything different from Republicans?..."

Did I miss something? Obama killed Osama? Damn, I thought the Navy Seals did that and that Obama was on the golf course when it happened. Those rascally Republicans spreading false stories about the Navy Seals getting Osama. The gall of those Republicans. Oh wait, I just looked it up-the Navy Seals did get Osama, while Obama was playing golf or sitting on his ass in Washington.

And that saving the auto industry thing, I thought United Airlines declared bankruptcy a few years ago and is still in business. And didn't American Airlines just declare bankruptcy and is till flying. How did Obama save GM? If Obama had allowed GM to declare bankruptcy like United and American Airlines, they would still be in business today. Obama didn't save GM. Obama saved the UAW. And it was the UAW who bankrupted GM.

This person A. M. Kelly is really confused. Thanks to the US Navy for getting Osama.

I guess the navy acted on its own then, huh? Obama didn't have anything to do with it. Then I guess Bush didn't have anything to do with the invasion of Iraq. After all, he wasn't there personally. Right Richard?

Once a fraud, always a fraud. Answer just one question Rich. Just comment on one of the issues I brought up earlier. I should have included Dadid Barton too. You do know who he is, correct?

Yet once again, NO ANSWERS! These questions shouldn't even be that hard to answer. Unless of course, you can't think for yourself and Rush hasn't discussed the subject for you.

Here ya go Rich, one more chance-

You don't blame the banks for losing your home, rather, you blame Obama and the democrats. So, in your own words, tell me how LIBOR and the banks were not at all responsible for today's economic troubles. Thank you in advance.

Another excellent article on global warming on the American Thinker website. The following is an excerpt:

"Surely the solution is to require any group of experts to be able to sufficiently explain their decision at several levels of complexity, right down to the very simple. If you cannot teach your idea simply, maybe you cannot really defend it. In particular, the experts must be able to explain fully without omissions, because omitting contradictory or anomalous evidence or ideas is the easiest way for an expert to convince a lay person, who is usually unaware that the confounding material exists.

Experience in financial and legal matters shows that we need some combination of auditing, checking, red teams, and professional defenders. Why should climate be any different?"

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_keys_to_the_climate_debate.html#ixzz23QM5cEQ8

The article is a simple and an easy read. The author asks: why have the predictions from the computer models been wrong for the last 20 years? If the models can't actually predict what actually happening, then the models are wrong. And since climate science relies on the models, if the models are wrong, then climate science is b.s. (i.e., hoax).

Of course, Terri won't read the article. Why? Her mind is made up and, if she's wrong about global warming, her whole world would be destroyed. It's better to be ignorant than to have your whole world dstroyed.

A little information on Medicare:

"First, there is Medicare. That program will go broke by 2017. So what did Nancy Pelosi want to do? Answer: expand it to include all Americans. Meanwhile, seniors cannot find a doctor who will accept them if they have Medicare coverage. Why? Because Medicare pays so little to providers that they lose money every time they take care of a Medicare patient. For icing on that cake, the ACA -- Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act of 2010 -- will cut Medicare reimbursements even further: an additional 21-27%. How does Congress think that doctors who cannot pay their staff will still be able to practice medicine?"

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/medicare_and_medicaid_rip.html#ixzz23QSGs9Wy

The problem:

"There are 10 parking enforcement employees for the 1.3-square-mile beach city southwest of downtown Los Angeles, and they pull down some disproportionate compensation, considering their job functions. In fact, the two highest-earning employees for fiscal year 2011-12 are estimated to have made more than $92,000 and $93,000, respectively, according to city documents provided by Patrick “Kit” Bobko, one of five council members and who also serves as mayor pro tem. Those two have supervisory roles. The other eight parking-enforcement employees make from $67,367 to $84,267 in total compensation."

Source: http://briancalle.ocregister.com/2012/08/10/hermosa-beach-meter-maids-making-nearly-100k/

And now you know why cities in California are declaring bankruptcy. The solution to the problem seems actually pretty simple. It's time to start cutting the salaries and benefits of public employees at all levels of government.

Sully, the report regarding voter fraud is totally inaccurate. It reports inpersonating, voters, but omits those that were not legally allowed to vote.

In Minnesota alone, 177 people have been concvicted, not just charged.
http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2012/08/07/2012-tuesday-voter-fraud-not-suppression-is-real/

Out of how many total voters? And there hasn't been just one investigation, there have been several that have confirmed voter fraud is not the widespread problem republicans want you to think it is. In the cases where fraud was found, a picture ID would not have changed the result. Do you not find it odd that all of the targeted individuals in each state with voter ID are mostly democrats and that the governors are republican? Do you not find it a bit suspicious when the state of Pennsylvania reports there is no evidence of fraud, however, a picture ID is still necessary? Add that the secretary of state (I think it was sec of state) said that requiring picture ID will assure a Romney victory (due to the number of minority and older voters who won't be allowed to vote). Also tell me why in Ohio, republican voting districts will have their polls open during extra hours, but democratic districts will not. Just some questions to ponder.

The economy sucks, credit downgrades, record debt, record unemployment, record foreclosures, 1% GDP. Voter suppression not necessary, sideshow issues should be ignored. The President is a failure.

Credit downgrades due to the tea party's unwillingness to compromise on anything despite the harm it may do to the people. And I would say disenfranchising possibly millions of voters is a little more than a sideshow.

Sully: "How many times did Ronald Reagan raise taxes when he was president?"

Ahhh, Sully asks a trick question. The obvious answer is none. The President of the United States cannot raise or lower taxes. Only the Congress is given the power to raise or lower taxes and all revenue legislation must originate in the House of Representatives per the Constitution of the United States. Civics 101, Sully. Any idiot knows that.

Instead of picking someone that could help Romney appeal to moderates or to help with foreign relations, he picks someone with no international experience who will raise taxes for the middle-class and give our social security to Wall Street. We can't afford that.

You have it backwards again, and it was only a few months ago. The Tea Party wanted cuts for debt ceiling raise, as they think our mushrooming debt is a problem. The Democrats threatened by claiming without a debt ceiling increase surely our credit would be downgraded. The Republicans caved in to Reid and the Democrats, raised the debt ceiling, and our credit was downgraded shortly after anyway. When truth gets flushed out, you guys like to twist and smear to avoid truth.

Bottom line - The economy sucks, credit downgrades, record debt, record unemployment, record foreclosures, 1% GDP. Everything else is a contrived side show.

Marc Brown: "Ryan's views on Medicare could cost us Florida!"

Couldn't disagree more. Ryan's plan for Medicare will have no effect on anyone who is 55 years or older. In other words, there will be no change for those presently on Medicare or those who will be eligible for Medicare within the next 10 years.

Ryan's plan saves Medicare from complete collapse. Why would older folks in Florida be opposed to a plan to save Medicare from collapse?

Don't believe what you hear on ABS, CBS or NBS-it's all b.s. on those three networks. CNN (the Clinton News Network) is b.s. too.

As Romney assembles his Oligarchy, Florida is the least of his problems. The people will see right through the Republican attempt to wipe out every thing good for society we've fought so hard to implement over the past 75 years. Women, the elderly, the disabled and minorities should be particularly outraged at Ryan/Romney economics.

You are probably refering to the wipe out of record unemployment our credit rating downgraded, record foreclosures, record deficit spending under Obama, failed stimulus, regulations, uncertainty of taxes, failed policies from the 1930s. Poor minorities are certainly the hardest hit.

RB: "The people will see right through the Republican attempt to wipe out every thing good for society we've fought so hard to implement over the past 75 years. Women, the elderly, the disabled and minorities should be particularly outraged at Ryan/Romney economics."

That's right RB-you tell 'em. Hey, wait a minute-under Obama the poverty rate is the same as it was in the 1960's. Obamanomics has destroyed small businesses all over the nation. The economy is so bad under Obama that even American Airlines had to declare bankruptcy. And, if Obama gets another term, the economy will get even worse. (You ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to Obama-think Cuba.)

The Democrats talk about the Ryan plan for Medicare, but the Dems misrepresent the Ryan plan. (See above for how the Ryan plan will affect those 55 and over-no change whatsoever.)

The Obama/Democrat plan for Medicare is to let Medicare go bankrupt so that nobody will get anything. Who's plan is the extreme plan-the Obama plan of letting Medicare go bankrupt or the Ryan plan to save Medicare.

RB is quite simply a liar. Yes, that's right, I called the code pink guy a liar. How do you look at yourself in the mirror RB?

RB's plan is to let the United States Government go bankrupt and destroy this country. Excellent plan, marxist.

Sully: "Gosh Rich, you can't even answer that one?"

Sully, I answered your question as you asked it and answered it correctly. I'm sorry that you don't know anything about the Constitution, but that's not my problem. Simply because you're dumb doesn't mean that you get a "do-over". In the private sector, you get one chance-blow that chance and you're out on your ass. You had your chance and now you're out on your ass.

Sully is just like Obama-he wants a "do-over" after he screws everything up.

RB: "I guess you're hoping the Ryan/Romney trickle down finds its way down to the bayou."

Florida will be just fine once the moving van pulls up to the White House to take Barack and Michelle stuff back to Chicago.

Things were just fine until election day in 2008 and then the phone stopped ringing. The phone will start ringing again the day after election day 2012. The last 4 years were a complete waste.

RB: "Rich, it might also start ringing if you spent time looking for business instead of being a right wing amplifier."

Typical dumb ass liberal-gives advice about something he knows nothing about. I work in the building construction industry. I work on buildings like the Sears Tower. Look around Dummy-see any buildings like the Sears Tower going up in Chicago or anywhere else in Crook County or anywhere else in the US, except Washington DC, for that matter?

One of my colleagues went to Singapore to work. Others have gone to the Middle East to work. Some have gone to Afghanistan to work for the US Military. Many more have just gone out of business. There is no work in the US, except for Washington DC and Texas.

The CEO of the company I work for has determined that the best use of my time is to make Obama a one term president. (I'm the CEO.) When Obama is gone, things will improve rapidly and will be just fine.

If Obama is re-elected, I plan on closing down my company the next day-there won't be any work in the building construction industry if Obama is re-elected. I have no idea what I'll do if I close down my company-I guess go on welfare and come over to watch you work to pay my bills. I'll probably steal stuff from your business too. You didn't build that business of yours RB-I helped too, so part of your business is mine.

You better be working your ass off RB, so I can sit around and do nothing. Only a loser would work if Obama is re-elected.

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RB is obviously in on the new revisionists resulting from liberals scratching their head after the Reagan revolution. Some crack pot has put together a piece to attempt to discredit and revise history with smoke and mirrors. Bottom line, Reagan inherited a mess and conquered it with historical economic growth while at the same time shatered the iron curtain. Obama and the liberals are failures, so these kind of bloggers are out in force.

The President of the United States:

"Do we go forward towards a new vision of an America in which prosperity is shared?" Obama asked. "Or do we go backward to the same policies that got us in the mess in the first place?"

"I believe we have to go forward," Obama said. "I believe we have to keep working to create an America where no matter who you are, no matter what you look like, no matter where you come from, no matter what your last name is, no matter who you love, you can make it here if you try. That's what's at stake in November. That's what is why I am running for a second term as president of the United States of America."

OK RB, if you agree with the President, give us your address so that those who are less prosperous can come on over and help themselves to your "prosperity".

Sully, you too, give us your address so that those who are less prosperous can sleep in your home. It's called sharing your "prosperity".

Obama is a marxist.

Paul Ryan:

"We look at one another's success with pride, not resentment, because we know that as more Americans work hard, take risks, succeed, more people will prosper, more communities will benefit. And individual lives will be improved," Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said today at the Romney campaign event announcing him as the VP."

"America, America is just more than a place, though. America is an idea. It's the only country founded on an idea. Our rights come from nature and God, not from government. That's right. That's who we are, that's how we built this country. That's who we are. That's what made us great. That's what made us great. We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes," Ryan said."

Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/11/ryan_our_rights_come_from_nature_and_god_not_from_government.html

Paul Ryan's vision of America versus President Obama's vision of America. The choice is yours America. Chose wisely.

Obama's vision is really no different from Fidel Castro's Cuba.

"Say it ain't so Joe." The TEA party is back with a vengeance.

"I just got this disturbing report: Yesterday's Romney-Ryan rally in North Carolina pulled in an overflow crowd of 15,000 people.

There's no spinning that number. It's a LOT of people, and the Republican base in energized.

And that's not all. Since the VP announcement, Romney's campaign has brought in over 70,000 donations from his Tea Party base."

Source: http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-obama-panic-romney-crowd-sizes/article/2504781

Rich, there you go again. Romney can't explain how his budget is different than the Ryan budget. Maybe it's not. Tax cuts for the wealthy and change Medicare. One day in, and Romney is already on the defensive. The comedians at the Condo's in Florida will have a lot of material come fall. Is Romney running for President? Adult conversation will cause problems for him. Paul Ryan's budget is the key focus of the Republican Party. It won't go away...
Democrats will have it easy telling this story....Ryan has voted big Government for Bush 43 many times. He's no real small Government conservative. Tax cuts for the wealthy. Repeat.....

Good thing Ryan had those social security checks coming in when he was teen. Otherwise he wouldn't have been able to afford college. Where might he be today without help from the government?

Pretty obvious the smell of desperation in these hacks who make lame attacks on Ryan. When your guy has failed, the only thing you can do is smear. I particularly like the rewrite of the Reagan years in an effort to cover up the stark contrast of success anf failure.

No need, I see through your purpose. You attempt to avoid the truth from the 1981 law 25 percent across-the-board cut in personal marginal tax rates resulting in unprecedented growth is laughable and pathetic. Tax revenues grew, economic indicators broke records. Liberals had to scheme a rewrite or be exposed as failures, as the guy currently in the white house has clearly demonstrated.

The LA Times has an article comparing the Ryan/Romney ticket to the days of Taft. Informative reading.....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-days-of-taft-20120813,0,3544670.story

Sully: "I don't recall any buildings like the Sears Tower going up during either Bush or Clinton or Reagan either."

That's because you're an idot Sully. Either that, are you're senile.

"The Chicago Spire (previously known as the Fordham Spire) which was under construction in Chicago, Illinois has been cancelled; it would have been the tallest building in the United States, rising 2,000 ft into the sky." Source: Wikipedia

The hole in the ground for the Chicago Spire is still there.

Trump Tower, Chicago (competed 2009)

Bank of America Tower, New York (completed 2009)

New York Times Bldg., New York (completed 2007)

Bank of America Plaza, Atlanta (completed 1992)

US Bank Tower, Los Angeles (completed 1989)

Franklin Center, Chicago (completed 1989)

Two Prudential Plaza, Chicago (completed 1990)

Comcast Center, Philadelphia (completed 2007)

Key Tower, Cleveland (completed 1991)

One Liberty Place (completed 1987)

Source: Wikipedia

There are more, but I'm bored.

"Once a fraud, always a fraud." Sully, you're a fraud and you ain't too bright either.

Semantics buddy. Semantics. There have been no buildings built like the Sears Tower.

Now let's see- LIBOR, tax increases under Reagan, what else was there? So many it's hard to remember.

I can play that game too...

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2003/08/the-historical-lessons-of-lower-tax-rates

In reality you try to deflect the failure you voted for by smearing one of the greatest Presidents who served 30 years ago, desperate much?

Hey, the union bailout results are in: Obama's only self discerned accomplishment is really a failure, thanks for playing.

The Treasury Department says in a new report the government expects to lose more than $25 billion on the $85 billion auto bailout. That's 15 percent higher than its previous forecast.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120813/AUTO01/208130392#ixzz23XPgrNck

I am so proud of my 25-year old son. Last night he called me after having dinner with his mother (the ex-wife). (He's one of those college graduates who hasn't found work yet. Well, actually he's got 4 years of college under his belt, but he hasn't graduated yet.) The ex-wife suggested that he apply for Medicaid. (He's been seriously ill for the last 5 years.) He told her no and she exploded.

He voted for Obama in 2008, but I can see that he finally gets it. He doesn't want to be a leech on society, even though he doesn't have a job and he's ill.

It took a while, but eventually your children grow up and mature. And when they do, they begin to understand how they have screwed over by Obama and his merry band of Democrats. It looks like my boy will be voting for Romney/Ryan this time around. I've got a smile on my face this morning.

If it weren't detrimental to 99 percent of the American people, I'd like to see Romney win. Who will Richard blame for his troubles when a republican is in office? I'm guessing it'll still be Obama and any democrat in congress. It couldn't have anything to do with Rich himself.

CNN catches Debbie Wassermann-Schultz making false statements about Medicare:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/08/13/brutal_cnn_torches_dws_on_medicare_falsehoods

Caught you DWS. And just in case you don't know who DWS is, she is the chairwoman of the Democrat National Committee (DNC).

"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters now have a favorable opinion of Ryan, while 32% view him unfavorably. This includes 29% with a Very Favorable view of Romney’s vice presidential pick and 13% with a Very Unfavorable one. Only 13% are now unfamiliar with Ryan, and five percent (5%) are not sure about him."

Source:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/08/14/paul_ryans_approval_skyrockets_as_voters_get_to_know_him

Thumbs up. Oooops, looks like Obama/Biden got a problem with Paul Ryan.

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 44%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided."

Source: Rasmussen Reports, August 14th, 2012

The question comes down to....."Are you satisfied with what you have today or do you want something better?" If you are satisfied vote Obama. If you think there is something better and you want it vote Romney. Wanting something different but doing the same old thing doesn't make sense.

Voter fraud in Minnesota;

"Franken and his Democratic allies dispatched an army of lawyers to challenge the results. After the first canvass, Coleman's lead was down to 206 votes. That was followed by months of wrangling and litigation. In the end, Franken was declared the winner by 312 votes. He was sworn into office in July 2009, eight months after the election.

During the controversy, a conservative group called Minnesota Majority began to look into claims of voter fraud. Comparing criminal records with voting rolls, the group identified 1,099 felons -- all ineligible to vote -- who had voted in the Franken-Coleman race."

http://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2012/08/13/when_1099_felons_vote_in_a_race_won_by_312_ballots

Here you go Sully. . . . . nothing more to say on the subject.

"Yet Democrats across the country continue to downplay the importance of the issue. Last year, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, denounced "the gauzy accusation that voter fraud is somehow a problem, when over and over again it has been proven that you're more likely to get hit by lightning than you are to (be) a victim of voter fraud." "

http://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2012/08/13/when_1099_felons_vote_in_a_race_won_by_312_ballots/page/2

Well, well, well, it sounds like Sully is just a parrot-he justs repeats everything he hears. Based on Sully's definition of a fraud, that makes Sully a fraud.

Funny how that works isn't it Rich? You believe 100 percent that your links are 100 percent accurate without even looking at any other evidence. How convenient (and simple)?for you. You really need to stop projecting yourself and your faults onto me. It's not healthy.

Funded a climate study that confirmed global warming? Since when did science conclude on this, I think I missed that day. Absolute confirmation, wow. More lies about Reagan, all side shows. Takes away the discussion about credit downgrade, record debt, stimulus waste, bankrupt green companies, record foreclosures. Face it, four years at it and things are worse now, failure.

Yet you've never identified any lie I've told, have you Richie?

Got an answer for any of those questions, buddy?

Here- something from Fox

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/03/gop-fictional-voter-fraud-charges-aim-to-keeping-democrats-from-voting/

A rather interesting article on Valerie Jarrett, President Obama's adviser:

"Every insider in Chicago told Klein the same thing: Jarrett has no qualifications to be the principal advisor to the president of the United States. She doesn't understand how Washington works, how relations with Congress work, how the federal process works. She doesn't understand how the economy works, how the military works, how national security works. But she understands how Obama works.

The president turns to Valerie Jarrett for definitive advice on all these issues. She has given him terrible advice over and over, and still he turns to her."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/obamas_strange_dependence_on_valerie_jarrett.html#ixzz23YmKSgLW

Ooh, another credible site!

Hey Rich, it looks like Rush lied-

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/jul/23/jeff-fitzgerald/obamacare-largest-ever-tax-middle-class-gop-us-sen/

I don't need links or sites on Reagan, I watched tv the cloudy day he signed the record marginal tax rate reduction across the board, and I saw the interest rates go from 26% to 5% in 15 months, along with all the other economic indicators. You guys mess with a guy who has a memory, and an economics degree.

"Almost immediately upon enactment of the 1981 tax cut, Reagan came under enormous pressure to do something about the federal budget deficit. While his preferred approach was to cut spending as much as necessary, it was not politically possible to so. His aides began pressuring him to support a tax increase. Conservative activists were appalled that Reagan would even consider such a thing, but he eventually endorsed the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982. According to a Treasury Department analysis, it raised taxes by close to one percent of GDP, equivalent to $150 billion per year today, and was probably the largest peacetime tax increase in American history.[11]"

Reagan had democrats to deal with, so in order to get his bill passed he made deals with the spenders. Why Reagan discussion? Could it be his 9% GDP to barely 1% under Obama?

OMB budget data from 1789 to present:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals

Credit downgraded, record unemployment, record deficit spending, record foreclosures, thats all you need to know under Obama. The real problem we face now is the interest rate is artificially low since any flucuation higher as result of REAL INVESTMENT means our national debt gets clobbered. Feds will not raise it in fear therefore no loans, In 1979 our deficit spending was based on 80% interest payments towards our debt, after Obama's 5 trillion bringing it to 16 trillion, any flucuation in rates upward means the lions share of our budget is interest. This means that we may be over the cliff, thanks Barack.

Hey Mac, I'm sure you know better than these two guys. They must be rinos, huh?

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/blaming-obama-for-george-w-bushs-policies/
-Bruce Bartlett, who served under Reagan, Bush Sr., Jack Kemp, and Ron Paul

http://www.businessinsider.com/david-stockman-paul-ryan-budget-2012-8#ixzz23YWsMTrD
-David Stockman, Director of the Office of Management and Budget under Reagan

Sully: "Hey Mac, I'm sure you know better than these two guys. They must be rinos, huh?"

I guess Sully isn't bright enough to be able read the spread sheet provided by OMB. OMB provides the facts about what happened during the Reagan Administration.

Facts are facts, but I guess the Sully just can't deal with facts. "Once a fraud, always a fraud.", right Sully.

Sure thing Richie! And your reading comprehension must be at about a second grade level if you bothered to look at the two links above, because you sure don't seem to understand them. Just more denial and refusal to acknowledge you don't know as much as you think. Another attempt to not deal with reality. Well, what else would I have expected. Got another question for you Rich. Is it against the law for U.S. presidential candidates to receive money from foreign donors?

Sully: "And your reading comprehension must be at about a second grade level if you bothered to look at the two links above, because you sure don't seem to understand them."
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Sully, why do you need a filter for the data? The OMB spreadsheet tells you all you need to know about what happened during the Reagan Administration. I assume that the reason is either that you're too dumb to be able to read the OMB spreadsheet and do a little arithmetic or the spreadsheet shows that you're lying. Probably both.

Sorry Sully, but you don't know what you're talking about (once again).

Richie, these two articles aren't even about Reagan. Sorry Dude. Insult me all you want, but you'll never answer a direct question because you have no idea.

I honestly feel a little sad for people like this Richard character who blame others for their own failings and have such high expectations of being rescued by others. I hate to break it you, Mr. Schulte, but things aren't going to change much if Romney is elected.

I have a feeling that if you spent a quarter of the amount of time working at your job (if you have one), looking for one (if you don't) or simply volunteering in your local area to make a contribution to society as you do posting here on Patch you'd feel better about yourself.

It's pretty obvious that you're a sad, lonely, angry older man without a lot going for you. My advice is to join a club or sign up for match.com and look for a nice lady friend. I'm serious. You're too worked up.

Bottom line, sir: You're in control of your own destiny. Don't blame others for what goes wrong in your life and stop hoping for some one else to save you.

Tom Morrison: "Bottom line, sir: You're in control of your own destiny. Don't blame others for what goes wrong in your life and stop hoping for some one else to save you."
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Mr. Morrison, let me give you advice: never take advice from a liberal.

"Currently, just 58.4% of the civilian population is employed, as compared to 64.3% twelve years ago. Factoring in the growth of the population during that period, this drop represents over 22 million Americans unable to find work. Since January 2009, 74% of all new jobs created in the U.S. were in the lowest-paying sectors of the economy, thereby stifling any chance of upward mobility and growth in median income which has fallen by 9% since January 2009, and average household wealth that has declined by nearly 40% over this same period. This failure is a byproduct of a tsunami of government regulations, mandates, and taxes which has nearly destroyed the innovation and business and job-creation that made the American economy so vibrant over the latter part of the 20th century. That innovation has now moved overseas, along with over 7.5 million high-paying goods-producing jobs since 2000."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_childishness_of_the_american_left.html#ixzz23bvU7Kkp

One could say that George Washington and John Adams were not gainfully employed between 1776 and 1783. But, in fact, both of these men were employing their talents against an enemy. I am doing the same.

"A new Washington Post poll shows a whopping 74 percent of Americans believe photo identification should be required to cast a ballot in U.S. elections."

Source:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/08/14/74_percent_of_americans_beleve_voter_id_should_be_required_to_vote

Well, well, well. . . .it looks like 74 percent of Americans agree with Republicans on the voter fraud issue.

Brilliant, simply brilliant:

"To the true believers on the left, re-electing Barack Obama is not a matter of what is or is not good for the country; rather, for the majority on the left, the primary motivation is geared solely toward defeating their sworn enemy: conservatives and Republicans, whom many falsely believe are a right-wing horde determined to create a theocracy and impose old-fashioned morality. But what they fear most from the right is a determination to reinstitute unfettered individual freedom and concomitant economic growth, which would relegate the American left to the back bench of American society.

Thus, to them, what the policies of Barack Obama and his radical minions are doing to the long-term fate of nation is immaterial as long as Obama regurgitates his support for the various causes that are near and dear to the coalition that makes up the left. There are two common threads to the belief system of American progressives: 1) an omnipotent central government controlled by them, and 2) an assumption that there is a bottomless pit of money to be siphoned from an equally bottomless pit of wealth. But this is not the same nation that experienced unprecedented prosperity from 1946 to 2007. It is not the same nation in which these narcissists on the left grew up, never knowing national adversity or trauma."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_childishness_of_the_american_left.html#ixzz23c5nQU56

LOL...So you fReAkS are still at it...give it up...R&R are dead in the water.
Barack will win again. This discussion is total folly and a waste of precious time.
Find something constructive to do with your short lives.

"Say it ain't so, Joe."

"For the first time since he began running for president, Republican Mitt Romney has the support of over 40 percent of America's youth vote, a troubling sign for President Obama who built his 2008 victory with the overwhelming support of younger, idealistic voters."

Source: http://washingtonexaminer.com/a-romney-first-over-40-of-youth-vote-back-him/article/2504893#.UCueg91lREN

OMG, 40 percent of young people might vote Republican in 2012. That means they might be voting Republicans for another 50 years. Damn, another "exploding cigar" just blew up in the Democrats' face.

"Say it ain't so Joe." What's next.
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"A group of former U.S. intelligence and Special Forces operatives is set to launch a media campaign, including TV ads, that scolds President Barack Obama for taking credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden and argues that high-level leaks are endangering American lives."

Source: Newsmax.com: Special Ops Group Attacks Obama over Bin Laden Bragging, Leaks

Hmmm. . . this sounds familiar, doesn't it. You didn't do that, Mr. President-the US Navy Seal got Osama.

I don't even like Obama but I am going to be happy when the right wingers are mad for 4 more years.

Oh yes and you can add another 4 when Hillary stuffs Ryan for the 2016 election as well.

Too funny.

Sully: "Admit it, you only know what you are told to know or what you can repeat. You are too narrow-minded to read or listen to anything that is not already in your schemata, and you have no critical thinking skills that could enable you to tell fact from fiction."
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Well then Sully, let me quote Marx for you:

"Before I speak, I have something important to say."

"I didn't like the play, but then I saw it under adverse conditions - the curtain was up."

"I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members."

"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it."

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception."

Source: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/groucho_marx_2.html#SYJDioEszy0lpghH.99

You're really losing it, Rich. Maybe it's time to take the advice of some other posters on here and take a leave for a little while. You're posting things that are not relevant to anything now. A complete disconnect.

I would suggest you heed your own advice. Your posts are irrelevant to the current day struggles of the middle class. The middle class has been hardest hit from record foreclosures, record unemployment, record long 1% gdp. Its the middle class that is quickly becoming the lower class, as we shift more towards the Socialist/Communist model of two classes, rich or poor. Policies that dictate outcomes, eliminate opportunities, are unsustainable in funding, and divisive in rhetoric. Thats what hope and change gives you.

I guess you can't read anything that doesn't fit your schema either McCloud, otherwise you would have seen what two republicans who worked under Reagan have to say. So much denial on the right. It's hard to undo all the misconceptions that have accumulated throughout a lifetime.

Richard, you said the same thing to someone else on this thread. You're redundant too. And a waste of time. Now respond to me by quoting my own words back, and then maybe a Reagan quote or an old Saturday Night Live quote, or any number of quotes from Rush, Coulter, or any of the other windbags you so adore.

You would rather speak nonsense on Reagan, and have no answer for credit downgrade, record unemployment, record deficit spending, record foreclosures, record low 1% GDP, record failure for the guy you voted for.

"It comes down to this: Americans are anti-intellectual because the intellectuals are anti-American."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/americans_are_anti-intellectual_because.html#ixzz23f1rvPL0

Prime example: Sully, PhD

Yep, I was extremely disappointed when the USA won the gold medal in both men's and women's basketball, and that the American women swimming in relay won the gold while also setting a world record. All those darn golds in track too, what a bummer. And American football? Gosh I hate that sport even though I pay Directv for every football game every weekend with the Sunday Ticket. College football. Yeah, Alabama winning two national championships in three years, with Auburn in between, and the resurgence of Michigan and USC, and the downfall of Texas and Florida. Just hate that darn American sport. Oh and baseball? Don't get me started about "America's game". Really, St.Louis winning the world series last year even though Philly was the best team throughout the year. And those poor woeful Cubs with the curse and all. I hate America so much that I can't stand it's sports. Get this about my own father - he was actually a colonel in the U.S. army and was in WW II. He was a doctor, so just think of all those damn yanks he had to work on. He was there for D-Day too. How could he have worked on American soldiers? Yes, I really despise the country I was born in, went to school in, live in, and work in (and actually pay taxes too without looking for loopholes or stashing money in an overseas account). This damn country. Just hate it. If I could only be more like Richard.

You know Rich, I know more about this country than you'll ever know and I care more about this country and it's people than you even have the capacity for. I hate to see it go down the toilet because of people like you who think they k ow everything, but in actuality have no clue as to what really goes on. You and close-minded friends are the worst thing that has ever hit this country. Terror attacks do a lot of damage, but sanity can be recovered. The damage done by ideologues can last for generations and be disaster for countless number of people for a long time. Don't tell me about being American. You would prefer a one party system made up of plutocracy, oligarchy, and theocracy. That Richard, is not what the founding fathers intended.

Reagan is rolling over in his grave knowing you tea party kooks have hijacked the republican party. His own SON supports Obama. Love the fictional character you've all created for Willard's opponent. Obama's spending record is right of Reagan's. http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/03/obamas-spending-record-more-conservative-than-reagans.html. You say you love America, but you create petitions urging small businesses not to hire workers to make Obama look bad. Sick, sick, sick. You are traitors to your country and an embarrassment overseas. You wrap yourselves in the American flag and your bibles, but there's not a patriotic or christian bone in your bodies. Our founding fathers are weeping with Reagan.

As for the more intellectual party, the verdict is in. But, you won't read the link because it's published by scientists and we know how you tea partiers despise facts, knowledge and scientific evidence. http://www.americanscientist.org/science/pub/study-are-liberals-smarter-than---conservatives

Terri: "You are traitors to your country and an embarrassment overseas. You wrap yourselves in the American flag and your bibles, but there's not a patriotic or christian bone in your bodies."

The Founding Fathers were considered to be traitors too.

November is looking really good, I mean REALLY good my fellow Americans. It's time for some R&R.

So now your calling the founding fathers traitors to America? Or are you referring to their being traitors to England? If it's the latter, that doesn't help your case.

The more intellectual party? Which one is that, the one you are a member of? Thanks for pointing that out, since it was clearly not evident from your writing.

Now they are blaming small business owners for Obama's failures? Good grief, at least this forum educates us on some of the crack pot slime bag garbage loonies out there are serving up.

Terri: "You wrap yourselves in the American flag and your bibles, but there's not a patriotic or christian bone in your bodies."
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"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
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The left's anti-religion bent is evident in Terri's post. Sounds much like Obama's "guns and bibles" quote.

Since you like quotes so much, Rich, here's one for you, in a couple of variations-

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
"it will not be identified with any "shirt" movement, nor with an "insignia," but it will probably be "wrapped up in the American flag and heralded as a plea for liberty and preservation of the constitution."[1]"
"When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled "made in Germany"; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, "Americanism." "

You know what worries me even more than the specter of Romney and Ryan? All those who think like them and accept all their lies as truths!

How can one person harbor so much hate against at least half of the American population? Rich, you don't even know these people, yet you claim you do. Anti-religion? TrIaitors? Why, because Rush, Malkin, and Coulter say so? Who the hell are they? Who made them right? They're making millions off of your ignorance. These heroes of yours make these claims and you take them on as your own. You are one sorry man. Have you ever had a single thought that was your own?

Lies? Like the recent commercial about how Romney murdered someone? Or perhaps it was the one about after passing the healthcare bill premium would drop $2,000? Or the one where passage of the stimulus was immediatly necessary and unemployment would go below 8% then under 6%? Perhaps you were referring to the reuction of 700 billion from medicare to pay for Obamacare counted twice for OMB scoring. Or maybe the OMB score of 1 trillion is now close to 3 in projections. Which lie are you speaking of?

Here's a quote Richard: "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

Not anti-religion, just anti-bigots using religion to sell their hate and greed. True Christians believe the exact opposite what you spew. The teachings of Jesus are those of love, forgiveness, tolerance and taking care of the poor. Basically, the antithesis of the current GOP platform.

OMG, look at this. One by one, the swing states are lining up in the Romney column.

"Mitt Romney's choice of Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan has reversed the presidential polling in the state, pushing the Republican over President Obama for the first time. It has also pushed Romney to his highest-ever level of support in politically-progressive Wisconsin."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/after-ryan-pick-romney-leading-in-wisconsin/article/2505104#.UC05_mzCz8B

Just because Satoshi Kanazawa is controversial, this does not invalidate his findings as published in a respected, scientific journal. It's not like he's David Barton falsely claiming to be a historian. Here's an interesting graph: http://www.upworthy.com/so-whos-really-smarter-democrats-or-republicans-heres-your-definitive-answer

I was going to stay out of this conversation/debate, but I want to make just one post.

Regardless of what side you are on, stop and watch this. Click on the 1:30 minute mark and listen to the promise that's made to the American people. The left has zero right to be accusing anyone of lying when you watch this video, because this is the biggest lie of them all. Honestly, this video should be a repeating Romney ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jJvkkNmR_8

For those who don't want to click on the link...

Obama, in February of 2009 said, word-for-word: "And that's why today I'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited, by half, by the end of my first term in office."

That's all I have to say. That's all I should need to say. It kind of speaks for itself. Enjoy the rest of your debate, everyone.

Hey Tim! I've been wondering where you were. How are things going for you these days?

Oh yeah- got another quote for ya. "read my lips..." remember that one? What politician of either party keeps all of his or her campaign promises? Granted, Bush Sr. was one and done, but there are so many things that were outside of his control, and are outside of Obama's control, that keeping those frivolous promises is just about impossible. Obama has not had the support of congress, which makes things very difficult.

Hey Rich- take a lesson from Tim. He and I agree on just about nothing, but he answers questions and defends his position. He doesn't use quotes and talking points as his one and only reply to every query.

The age of Obama:

"In the age of Facebook and Twitter, a new crime has hit America: "Sharpie parties," gatherings of revelers armed with "Sharpie" magic markers and lured by social media invitations to wreak havoc on foreclosed homes."

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/48688084

Stuff like this didn't happen when President Bush was in the White House. My home in Evanston was foreclosed on. I don't blame the bank. I would never do anything thing like this.

What the hell are you talking about Rich? Is everything the fault of politicians? Considering what one republican said, that Obama needed to take responsibility for the drought, maybe that is all you can see. Every single thing in the world revolves around republicans and democrats. Everything good is due to republicans, everything bad, democrats. Now that is truly black and white thinking. You're even sadder than I thought. What a waste.

" "Ryan has fired up the base," said Gruschow, after speaking to friends in the evangelical Christian community and the Tea Party who he said had been a little hesitant, a little concerned, about Romney. "I think now that Ryan has been selected as his running mate, there's a lot of enthusiasm. He is a Tea Party guy."

Another of the Tea Party founders, Ryan Rhodes, also backed the vice-presidential pick. "I have seen a lot of people excited by Paul Ryan. He has given them a reason to vote. I think it would have been different if he had chosen Chris Christie [the New Jersey governor who is closer to the centre]. You would have seen a lot of people standing by." "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/16/romney-gamble-paul-ryan-vicepresident

Thumbs up TEA party! The TEA party carried Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker over the finish line (even with busloads of Democrats from Illinois going up to Wisconsin to vote). The TEA party will carry Romney over the finish line too.

Sully: ". . . .Considering what one republican said, that Obama needed to take responsibility for the drought. . . "

Hmmm, I thought that Hurricane Katrina was Bush's fault. If Bush was responsible for Katrina, then it is only logical that Obama take responsibility for the drought.

Of course, Sully is shading things here. Obama has made the decision not to lift the ethanol mandate (in gasoline) even though the corn crop has been damaged by the drought. The decision not to lift the ethanol mandate will cause food prices to rise worldwide. A spike in food prices will cause many of the world's poor to go hungry and may even cause thousands of poor people to die to starvation.

Does Obama have 'blood on his hands' because he doesn't care about poor people starving? Well Terri, that's a question that you should ponder. It's obvious if you care about poor people that the ethanol mandate should be lifted.

Using corn to make ethanol for automobile fuel is an idea dreamed up by the kooks. It makes absolutely no sense to turn food into fuel, particularly when there is plenty of natural gas and oil in North America. The US is the Saudi Arabia of natural gas.

Honda will be selling a Civic which runs on CNG (compressed natural gas) in the next few months, if Honda isn't already selling a Civic fueled with CNG. CNG is the vehicle fuel of the future. CNG powered vehicles will be mass produced if Romney wins the presidency.

From Rasmussen today:

Ohio: Romney 45% / Obama 45%
Wisconsin: Romney 48% / Obama 47%
Iowa: Romney 46% / Obama 44%
Florida: Romney 45% / Obama 43%
Virginia: Obama 48% / Romney 46%
North Carolina: Romney 49% / Obama 44%
Colorado: Romney 47% / Obama 47%

As the economy sinks further into the abyss because of Obama, Romney/Ryan will just keep looking better and better in the polls. President Romney, Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader McConnell, now that's sweet. The stock market will soar on Wednesday, November 7th. The recession ends on the evening of November 6th.

Yes, they do need to ban all ethanol fuel sale for the 85 product. As far as the CNG powered cars are concerned, a CNG kit to convert Civic, Corolla and other smaller cars can be bought for around 3K. It is widely used in developing countries in Asia and Africa. It still lets you switch to gasoline if CNG is not available.

" “Obama’s dead and the American auto industry is alive,” [Governor] Quinn said before correcting himself to say “Osama bin Laden” is dead. “Guess I won’t use that one again,” the governor said."

Source: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-15/news/chi-unions-protest-democrats-at-illinois-state-fair-20120815_1_pension-systems-pension-reform-pat-quinn

Actually, Governor Quinn was right the first time-Obama is toast.

Here ya go Rich - looks like foreclosures didn't just begin when Obama took office. I'm sure no one has to explain this to you.  

                                                 Home foreclosures.    Housing starts

Bush 2001                                          674,550.               1,602,700
Bush 2005                                       483,940.               2,068,300
Bush 2007.                                       977,132.               1,353,700

Change from 2001-2005  +45%.                     -16%
Change from 2005 to 2007.     +102%.                    -35%

Sources: For foreclosures: Authors’ calculations based on US Census Bureau and Mortgage Bankers Association data. For home starts: Authors’ calcula- tions based on US Census Bureau data. Additional details provided in appendix.

Did anything get better under Obama or do we just settle for failures?

No McCloud, we don't settle for failures. We the people demand our politicians to stop posturing and do what we hired them to do. Stop blocking everything the other party does and compromise. It worked before and it could work again. The media has to stop being propaganda machines and actually present the news. Not an opinion about the news, but the actual facts. The parties have to stop this ultrapartisonship in both government and society. Otherwise, we'll keep going down the slippery slope until theremis no hope for climbing back up.

Sully: "Stop blocking everything the other party does and compromise."

The agenda advocated by Democrats is harmful to both the US economy and to American society as a whole. Why should the opposition compromise with an agenda that is harmful to America?

Obamacare is not about health care, but rather expanding government. The purpose of Obamacare is to give the Federal Government control over Americans in the same way that Chicago's thug government operates. Obama is working on brining Chicago's thug government to the entire nation.

No compromise with Democrats.

Sully: "And the republicans in the house blocked the farm bill that was passed by the senate that would give relief to farmers effected by the drought. Won't that affect food prices too?"

How does the "farm bill" affect the supply of corn that is available for food? (The corn crop was planted 3 months. Taking action in August is 3 months too late to increase the supply of corn available for food.)

It would appear that Sully doesn't know anything about raising corn or the law of supply and demand.

President Obama: "And I don't think you or anybody who's been watching the campaign would say that in any way we have tried to divide the country. We've always tried to bring the country together," President Obama said in an interview with Entertainment Tonight."

The most polarizing president in my memory claims he's not working on trying to "divide" the country. Not only is President Obama trying to "divide" the country, it would appear that President Obama is trying to destroy the country. Obama is nothing more than a thug politicians.

Another Obama lie.

Stop blocking everything the other party does and compromise? Like when the Republicans caved to pass the debt ceiling increase based on Democrat threats that our credit rating was at stake if there was no compromise? I think you know the rest of that story. The Tea Party was labeled racists after their point turned out correct.

A former Democrat Congressman from Alabama who switched to the Republican Party:

"Davis, 44, who served in the House as a Democrat from Alabama from 2003 to 2011, said in a telephone interview that he has been given a speaking slot at the Aug. 27-30 Republican convention in Tampa."

" "President Obama - Senator Obama - ran on two broad themes," Davis said. "One of those broad themes was reunifiying this country. And another broad theme was turning this economy around.... I'll certainly be talking about those two failures." "

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/al_congressman_who_supported_obama_in_2008_to_speak_at_gop_convention.html#ixzz23o0fI31I

Not that the color of Davis' skin changes any thing, but Davis is black folk.

Because everything the President does damages our country, adding more debt and no change to GDP stagnant at 1%. The credit downgrade resulted from massive increase in deficit spending, what part of that do you not understand? True, the Tea Party was labeled early on, when political hacks could not fathom we the people demanding the spending stop.

Democrats can't talk about the economy, so it's the race card:

" “That really bothered me,” he said. “You notice he said anger twice. He’s really trying to use racial coding and access some really deep stereotypes about the angry black man. This is part of the playbook against Obama, the ‘otherization,’ he’s not like us.”

“I know it’s a heavy thing, I don’t say it lightly, but this is ‘niggerization,’” Touré said to the apparent shock of his co-panelists. “You are not one of us, you are like the scary black man who we’ve been trained to fear.” "

Source: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-toure-to-panel-romney-engaging-in-the-niggerization-of-obama/

So now the Obama campaign is calling Romney a "racist" because he's white and Republican. No, that's not being divisive.

Oh no, say it ain't so Joe:

" “We are united in calling on the governor to treat employees fairly and to recognize the importance of the vital services they provide,” said Michael Carrigan, president of the stateAFL-CIO.

“We are extremely disturbed that at a time when collective bargaining rights for public employees are under attack by a number of Republican governors, here in Illinois we have a Democratic governor who is undermining fundamental collective bargaining rights for public employees,” Carrigan said.

Other union leaders simply said their members had no faith in Quinn."

Hmmm. . . not much to say. Quinn is adopting Governor Scott Walker's policies (because it's absolutely necessary to do so).

Ok, its good to know what crack pots on your side use to explain failure like the credit downgrade. No worries, keep spending, its all the other Party's fault. Good grief, you are too far gone to continue discussion.

Another quote for you, Rich, by President Reagan (Labor Day speech in New Jersey, 1980). Take a look at the first line.

"They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost.  They remind us that freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.  You and I must protect and preserve freedom here or it will not be passed on to our children.  Today the workers in Poland are showing a new generation not how high is the price of freedom but how much it is worth that price."

So Rich, are you going to answer the question about Ryan or Romney ever lying?

http://247wallst.com/2011/09/14/americas-poorest-states/2/

Hi Sully,

The ten states listed in that article are all red states. These states that are red, are blaming Obama for their poverty, but fail to make any investments on themselves for the future! How hypocritical are these states? Not wanting welfare or health insurance for everyone, but they are the first to use and abuse the system!

Jerry Pech: Senator Barack Obama: "The fact that we’re here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure."

Thank you Mr. Pech for reminding us of what Senator Obama had to say about raising the debt ceiling when President Bush was in office.

"a leadership failure", got that everyone. So, according to Senator Barack Obama, President Obama's request to raise the debt ceiling was "a leadership failure". It would appear that President Obama agrees with McCloud and disagrees with His Majesty, the King of Bullshit, King Sully.

The libs have basically ruined the country with their incessant pandering to base human tendencies. The Republicans have contributed too but perhaps not as greatly. Obama and his ilk will have it completely ruined in no time if he is reelected. Mitt might slow it down a bit but the US is on the downhill side and probably cannot be reconstituted without complete collapse and a start-over. Then I suppose the voters or the mobs will be looking for a dictator to preserve order while history recycles itself.

Romney's Free Market vs. Obama's Socialism
Romney's Bain Capital invested PRIVATE money in: AMC Entertainment, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Dominos Pizza, Dunkin Donuts Staples, Toys "R" Us etc.
Obama's Invested TAXPAYER money in: Solyndra - Bankrupt, Ener 1 - Bankrupt, Beacon Power - Bankrupt, Abound Solar - Bankrupt, Amonix Solar - Bankrupt, I could go on buy why? All of these companies were Obama Campaign contributors.
Choice is clear...Do you want a businessman who generated billions or a president who wasted trillions. Lets not forget Obama and his people got their money back, it's the taxpayers that lost!

Obama is the idealogue.
With millions of citizens out of work Obama just granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens even though he has no authority to do so and they are lining up in droves for work permits and free government benefits paid for by already jobless and broke citizens while OBAMA BORROWS OVER $ ONE TRILLION/ YEAR TO PAY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL ALIENS AND OTHER DEMOCRAT SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AND DENIES STATES THE RIGHT TO CHECK IF VOTERS ARE LEGAL CITIZENS WITH VOTER ID.
Do those ObamaAmnestyForms ask if the illegal applicant ever voted in an election? If Obama had any honesty they should and there would be Federal Officers there to arrest anybody who checks "yes." Does anybody have any doubt whatsoever that Obama's illegal aunt and illegal uncle voted for Obama and are unindicted felons? Where is the MSNBC and NBC reporting on that breaking story? We already know Obama's illegal aunt was receiving free Section 8 housing and other federal and state government benefits so Obama KNOWS all these illegals are stealing not only our jobs but our money.
CHICAGOLAND: Thousands line up for Obama amnesty program...
Just think of all those citizens who will remain unemployed because Obama favors illegal aliens over hard working citizens.

Former congressman Artur Davis, who officially seconded President Obama’s nominationat the 2008 Democratic convention, said Wednesday that he will cap a remarkable political metamorphosis by addressing the Republican convention this month — calling for Obama’s defeat.Davis, 44, who served in the House as a Democrat from Alabama from 2003 to 2011, said in a telephone interview that he has been given a speaking slot at the Aug. 27-30 Republican convention in Tampa. But Davis said he planned to speak for millions of Americans who, like him, had traced a path from hope to disillusionment with Obama. After spending his entire political career as a Democrat, Davis declared in May that he has become a Republican.Davis has since become a vocal advocate for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney in Virginia, where he now lives. On Wednesday, he spoke on Romney’s behalf at an event in Ballston, attacking Vice President Biden for a recent comment that Republicans would put voters “back in chains.”Davis accused Biden on Wednesday of spreading “racial viciousness” and said the vice president’s comment “ought to embarrass President Obama.” He said in a CNN interview: “It’s a divisive tactic that’s insulting to African Americans. It’s insulting to the American people.” He added, “It was wrong ... and the president ought to say it was wrong.”

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My apologies Jennifer!

Patch Editor: "The reader used a fake e-mail address, so I can't respond to him or her directly."

So the King of B.S., Sully, is using a fake e-mail address so he can comment on Patch. The King of B.S., His Majesty Sully, is also the King of Fraud.

Of course Richard.

I don't need a fake email. I can post with the one I have.

Rich, you have definitely gone off the deep end. Enjoy using the new word I taught you (fraud). Glad to be of service.

S, you went off the deep end way back in this thread. Your attempts to attribute credit downgrade to political conflict is straight from the mouths of the LSD channel. Somehow you think that spending had nothing to do with a credit downgrade is like a foreclosure on a house has nothing to do with lack of making payments.

Did I make up the quote, McCloud? No, I didn't. You refuse to see what's right in front of you. It doesn't matter how many direct quotes or links I give, you won't believe them. Links I can understand, but direct quotes?

Looks to me that they were concerned about discretionary spending, but hey if Rachel on LSD says its not anything to do with the spending take a green pill and live it man.

Actually discretionary spending was the one area where they saw the parties somewhat agreeing. It was everything else the S&P was worried about.

Everything else but massive spending, that had nothing to do with it. Is that how Rachel mommy bird spit it out into your mouth? The loons who watch that freak show and make comments here make for some real head scatchin.

First of all, what are you talking about? Who is Rachel?

Mac, you go ahead and believe what you will. As I said, you don't see what's right in front of you.

OMG, look at this:

" “I think Paul [Ryan], for example, the head of the Budget Committee, has looked at the budget and has made a serious proposal. I’ve read it. I can tell you what’s in it and there’s some ideas in there that I would agree with but there’s some ideas we should have a healthy debate about because I don’t agree with them. The major driver of our long-term liabilities, everybody here knows, is Medicare and Medicaid and our health care spending. Nothing comes close,” said President Obama at the GOP retreat on January 29, 2010."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qDrl17I

Well, we see that President Obama agrees with Vice-Presidential candidate Paul Ryan that Medicare and Medicaid are a problem. Paul Ryan has a plan. What is the President's plan? Oh yeah, Obama's plan is to just get through the next election and then let Medicare and Medicaid just go broke.

Lets see, the credit rating agency S&P downgraded us, and it had nothing to do with massive spending. I'm signing off.

Is Paul Ryan more qualified to be the Vice President than Joe Biden? Well the answer to that question is obvious.

The real question is whether Joe Biden is more qualified that Barack Obama to be President. That question is not so easy to answer, but after thinking about it a little, I've come to the conclusion that Biden is much more qualified that Obama to be President.

With respect to Romney, the question is whether he has sufficient experience to be the President-after all, Romney has no community organizing experience.

OMG, Sarah Palin is now in charge of Obama's re-election strategy:

"Barack Obama had the chance to replace Biden with Hillary Clinton, a move which would have energized the Dem base. But he could not be seen agreeing with or taking the advice of Sarah Palin, who suggested that Biden's "chains" remark should earn him a firing. When Palin appeared on Fox and said that Biden should go, Obama had to keep him. Palin forced his hand.

The dummy Palin outsmarted Professor Obama once again. Heh."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/joe_biden_twisting_in_the_wind.html#ixzz23qMxWCpU

So if Sarah Palin is dumb and Sarah Palin out-foxed Obama, what does that make Obama? Hmmmm. . . .dumber than Sarah Palin. Well now, how about that?

Did Obama really get Osama? Not according to this former Navy Seal:

"It is my civic duty to tell the president to stop leaking national security secret to the enemy," former Navy SEAL Benjamin Smith says in the ad. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not."

Source: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/08/16/special_forces_to_obama_you_didnt_kill_osama_bin_laden_america_did

I'm afraid I have to agree with Benjamin Smith-the Navy Seals got Osama.

Who gave the order Rich? Here's the unedited quote, by the way-
Obama did not take the credit, but I don't expect you to believe that.
"Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who’ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome … We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.”

Interesting choice of words from a conservative website-

http://conservativebyte.com/2012/08/navy-seals-start-swift-boating-obama/

Interview with Admiral William McRaven, the guy in charge of the operation against Bin Laden. Interesting read for those who are interested. I'm guessing Richard won't bother. He's too afraid that the truth may not be as clear as he thinks.

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/28/sitroom.01.html

Part of the interview-

"The president and his national security team, you know, I'm not a political guy, but I will tell you, as an interested observer in this, they were magnificent in how they handled the start-to-finish.

We went through a number of meetings. The president asked all the right questions. His national security team, with secretary Gates, secretary Clinton, chairman Mullen, the vice chairman, Tom Donilon, Denis McDonough, and John Brennan and others really did a fine job of digging down to find out the facts, to make their recommendations based on the facts, and, of course, the president gave me ample time to prepare once the concept was approved.

But at the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden for this operation that made the hard decisions, that was instrumental in the planning process, because I pitched every plan to him. So any indication that Will McRaven, you know, ordered this raid, led this raid was, you know, the key piece of this raid, is just patently false."

He was probably threatened and had to say that, right Rich?

Romney/Ryan will

Voucher-ize (abolish) Medicare
Privatize (abolish) Social Security
Defund (abolish) Medicaid
Raise taxes on the middle class and poor
Lower taxes on the rich
Protect corporate subsidies
Protect offshore-blind-trust-accounts
Increase the MIC budget
Eliminate the Dept. of Education and the EPA
De-regulate Wall Street and Banks
Eliminate women's rights, equal pay and health care
Repeal Roe v Wade
Repeal the Affordable Health Care Act
Repeal the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Defund Planned Parenthood
Cut 4.1 million jobs by 2014
And raise the deficit to $16 trillion by 2021

You can guarantee I would never vote for that! You would have to be insane to even consider this as an option!

Great, another woman hater to add to the list. I'm thankful Obama gives women respect, unlike the Republican candidates. Against planned parenthood, abortion, birth control, equal pay.... I hate these sadist pigs.

Rachel Marks: "I hate these sadist pigs."

Can you feel the love?

GM, another Obama success story:

"Right now, the federal government owns 500,000,000 shares of GM, or about 26% of the company. It would need to get about $53.00/share for these to break even on the bailout, but the stock closed at only $20.21/share on Tuesday. This left the government holding $10.1 billion worth of stock, and sitting on an unrealized loss of $16.4 billion."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/gm_headed_for_bankruptcy_-_again.html#ixzz23tSDKUp7

More from the American Thinker:

"For over 70 years, leftists have been preparing to destroy free-enterprise capitalism and establish a statist-controlled Marxist society. Barack Obama has been preparing all of his life to advance that agenda. From his education and indoctrination by his mother and maternal grandparents; the lessons of uncompromising communism from his mentor, Frank Marshal Davis; a 20-year period spent under the guidance of Jeremiah Wright's version of Black Liberation Theology; and close association with unrepentant socialists, Barack Obama became steeped in "afrocentric Marxism," the racially motivated redistribution of wealth from the white power class to the poor black class -- essentially racial reparations disguised as achieving long-denied social justice. His years in college, post-graduate community agitation, and Chicago-style politics in the Illinois senate provided experience in using the levers of politics and government to achieve redistributionist goals."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_coming_battle_of_ideologies.html#ixzz23taMVLTc

And know you know what Obama's plans are for his second term-think Cuba.

Enough with that bias new source The Anti-American Stinker!

Yesterday I heard this on the radio, "the Koch Brothers were going to stop giving money to Romney and focus their money on the senate races instead". The only reason they were going to do this, is because they felt Romney's Presidential bid was going down the drain. So Mitten's had no choice but to pick Paul Ryan. Romney must feel like a dog to Koch brothers! If the Koch brothers say sit, Romney will sit. If the Koch brothers tell Romney to get on top of the car, Romney jumps on top of the car. Romney is like a money dog! woof woof. Unfortunately his dog didn't have they same incentives that Mitten's gets! By the way, what's in it for the Koch brothers? What did Romney promised these guys? This is your nominee bought my the billionaires! It's a very sad day for America, when billionaires, the 1%'s are attempting to purchase the highest position in this country!

"59% View Money-Losing Auto Bailouts As a Failure"

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/auto_industry/april_2012/59_view_money_losing_auto_bailouts_as_a_failure

OMG, another Obama Administration failure. Failure after failure after failure. Sounds like Cuba.

R&R are dead in the water. Barack will win the election again. Can't wait for that cigar to explode in Schulte and McCloud's faces.
YES WE CAN...make those two eat their own shit !!!
Looking forward to that day boys !!!

Richard, still waiting for you to respond to the admiral's interview (among many other things- you so conveniently ignore anything that questions your assertions). If you are going to say something that is far-fetched, the least you can do is respond to the reply. Assuming of course, you can respond for yourself.

OMG the republicans left this country in such a mess. repair, repair , repair. It's endless! No wonder Newt wanted to start a colony on moon!

Richard, another biased news report! rasmyassreport is more like it!

"Media Matters, Eric Boehlert, tweeted that “former Navy SEALs don’t have guts to admit they’re running a GOP, anti-Obama campaign.” "

Newsmax.com: Navy SEALs PAC Rips Liberal Site for 'Gutless' Comment

But, of course, the Democrats don't have the guts to admit that President Obama is a marxist.

They should send that seal to Canada for a nice clubbing.

Has Obama done anything successful in 4 years? We have record unemployment, record foreclosures, credit downgrades, record deficit spending, and there are still folks out there considering him as their vote? Good grief!

So let's see, there was no unemployment, no foreclosures, no deficit spending under Bush. And the credit downgrade had nothing to do with the republicans, only Obama and the democrats. Yep, sounds about right in the Fox universe.

Nick: "Newt also said Richard gets a nice crater."

Newt was my candidate. Newt did say that Richard gets a nice catering business if he becomes President. Nick just confused "cater" and "crater".

I don't have Fox, but when I did I was confident they didn't doctor videos or audios like ABC and NBC. Anyway, is this comment some sort of give up, that Obama is unable to turn things around, because the deficit and unemployment numbers are dwarfed by Obama numbers. By the way, the housing crisis that kicked this thing off was from government programs restricting lenders from underwriting and buying back loans to secure loooser lending policies, Democrat policies.

Children. That's what you are. You cannot have a rational conversation based on factual information; you resort to name-calling and accusations. You don't question anything you hear from the righting, whether it be Fox, Limbaugh, Malkin, Coulter, or anyone else who profits from hate mongering. If you could think for yourself, you would have to notice that 100 percent of what these people say is pro-right wing/negative left. Do you really believe that every republican is infallible, always truthful, always patriotic, while every democrat is just the opposite? That's ridiculous. You guys have all this hatred for probably half of the U.S. population. That's a lot of hate fellas. You base every belief on this hatred and you have no idea what the real world is like. You think you're the mainstream? That everyone hates as much as you do? I hate to break it to you, guys, but you are the minority. Richard, it makes no difference if you are as intelligent as you think you are. Since you don't use your brain, it doesn't matter. You don't think. You emote.

it's a shame that most real religious people think helping the less fortunate is a virtue, while you and the false religions inspired by the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells, as well as the dominionists and fundamentalists, treat religion as a way to conquer. Sure am glad I belong to the first group.

Mccloud: Get a clue. http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/11/11/hannity-video-switch-up-is-only-the-tip-of-fox/156851, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhZ9jE7Ztt4, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS1NWYV1i_E, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FwvQYLKK98, http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/11/19/fox-news-year-in-apologies-fake-videos-false-in/157273...the list goes on...

And as for you not watching Fox, I call bullsh*t. Or is the sociopath, Rush, all you need to get your misinformation? You "confident" that he doesn't spew mythological info. to his hate-monger audience?

Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Michelle Malkin, and the list goes on of dastardly characters the left villifies. Why does the left "hate" these people? Very simple-the left needs villans to focus their wrath on.

Rush et al expose the lies of the left. Anybody who exposes the left for who they really are is an enemy that must be destroyed.

President Clinton decried the "politics of personal destruction" and then raised the "politics of personal destruction" to an art-form. Jennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones all had to be destroyed because they told the truth about Clinton.

Sully decries name-calling and then not two sentences later Sully name-calls.

If you read Sully's posts on Patch you see how vile and vicious that this person actually is, but he won't reveal his name. Sully believes he's omnipotent and that his arguments are persuasive. While Sully arguments might be persuasive to young adults, adults with more life experience know that Sully is just the King of B.S.

And when Sully can't persuade experienced adults with his b.s., he gets angry and goes into a tirade. My guess is that Sully at one time in his life was a college professor. He treats everyone on Patch as if they are his students and can't deal with people who are his intellectual equals or who are intellectually superior.

Welcome to the real world Professor Sully. You're positively 4th Street.

I love the presumptive stereotypes these tolerant liberals display with their empty rhetoric. false religions inspired by the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells - I don't even know what religion these guys preach for, yet somehow claiming their belief as false rings intolerance. Are they still alive? You don't question anything you hear from the righting, whether it be Fox, Limbaugh, Malkin, Coulter, or anyone else who profits from hate mongering. - I don't need to listen, since I can read numbers showing record unemployment, credit downgrade, record foreclosures and record debt. Are these numbers they refer to somehow lies? Do you really believe that every republican is infallible, always truthful, always patriotic, while every democrat is just the opposite? - Did I ever mention this? I can name quite a few that falls into the later, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Durbin, even Bush caved in on Tarp.

Everybody knows who is responsible for this miserable economy-Obama is a "miserable failure.

"The defiance against Obama grows. At one stop his caterer hired by the Obama campaign showed up in a t-shirt saying he did build his business, at another in Virginia, a bakery (Crumb and Get It) refused to serve Biden and ended up with so much new business there were lines around the block until he ran out of food to sell."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_defiant_ones.html#ixzz23zSS7WrI

The economy me will soar once Obama is defeated at the polls. The recession ends on the evening of November 6. God bless America.

Obama-Worst.President.Ever.

"Recently I wrote about mysterious purchases of hollow-point ammo going to the National Weather Service which turned out to be a clerical error but doesn't explain government purchases of over 2 billion rounds of hollow-point ammo."

Read more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/administration_seeks_to_explain_ammo_purchases.html#ixzz23zUbDNp4

Yes, that's right, the Federal Government is purchasing 2 billion rounds of ammunition. What for? And it's not just any ammunition, it's hollow-point ammo. Why are Federal law enforcement agenices using hollow-point ammunition?

Just exactly what is the Federal Government preparing for? 2 billion rounds of ammunition. That enough to put 6 bullets in every American citizen. You have to wonder if the November elections will be cancelled because Obama already knows the results. Now that sounds like crazy talk, but what other explanation is there?

There is no doubt that Obama is a marxist. 2 billion rounds of hollow-point ammo. Put marxist together with 2 billion rounds of ammo together and you know what that means. Think the Cuban revolution. Forward.

Here's the Romney-Ryan Plan:
1. Tax poor & working people but not the rich;
2. Encourage wages in the U.S. to fall to third world levels;
3. Pass trade laws that make it easy for companies to send jobs overseas;
4. Pass laws that enable only insurance companies to control who gets health care (including seniors) and who doesn't;
5. Replace public education with out of pocket private schools and home schooling;
6. Refuse to invest in crumbling public infrastructure such as highways, bridges, and sewer systems;
7. Environmental Policy: Pass laws and weaken regulations that enable companies to pollute the environment;
8. Pass laws that enable gas and oil production and prices to be controlled by a few large companies; Make sure that there is no longer any research or work on alternative energy sources; Keep defense spending high to protect non domestic oil production;
9. Repress rights for women and minorities and repress voting participation;
10. Divide the American people on cultural issues (religion, sexual orientation, gun rights, etc);
11. Instill fear in the American public through manufactured crises and created "boogeymen". Then attack political opponents by claiming to be more "patriotic" and the better keeper of "American Values" than they.
12. Make it impossible for literally millions of ELIGIBLE voters to cast their ballots, which is flagrant vote tampering and corruption.
Can YOU afford to vote for these guys? I can't. I'M A WORKING MOTHER.

Terri: "You "confident" that he [Rush Limbaugh] doesn't spew mythological info. to his hate-monger audience?"

From Terri's comment above, I get the impression that Terri has never listened to the Rush Limbaugh show. If she would listen, you would find something very different going on the show.

What Terri is spouting is the typical radical left-wing propaganda. We listen to Rush Limbaugh not because we agree with Rush, but because Rush agrees with us. Rush just says what we were already were thinking.

Perhaps it's time for Terri to listen to what Rush has got to say. You might also want to take a look at what Dr. Walter Williams and Dr. Thomas Sowell have got to say. I'd say that Rush's opinion are pretty mainstream opinions in America.

And yes Terri, most Americans do not believe that man-made global warming is occurring. You folks who think cars are causing global warming are in the minority. You just think you're in the majority because you folks all scream so loud.

you know what they say..."sociopaths love company." Yes, have listened to Rush and his hatred, greed and lies make my stomach turn. Fortunately, I'm not susceptible to brainwashing that appeals to the lowest level of human instinct. Fear.

Some quotes from the (evil) Rush Limbaugh's radio show on August 13th, 2012:

RUSH: "If Medicare's the most important thing in your life, and you're over 55, Paul Ryan lets you keep it as it is forever. That's it. Nothing happens to you. Zip, zero, nada. If Obama and Obamacare are fully implemented, you are up the creek, because hello death panels, hello cutbacks, hello all kinds of changes, hello bankruptcy."

RUSH: I'm desperate for people like you to learn the truth... The subprime mortgage crisis is the foundation of the economic collapse, and it was brought to us by the Democrat Party.

RUSH: Ryan said, "My mom is a Medicare senior in Florida. Our point is, we need to preserve their benefits because government made promises to them that they've organized their retirements around. Now, in order to make sure we can do that, you must reform it for those of us who are younger, and we think these reforms are good reforms. They have bipartisan origins. They started from the Clinton commission in the late nineties."

Want more: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily

Hell, Sully sounds 10 times more vile, vicious and obnoxious than the quotes above.

I guess anyone whose view of the world differs from Terri's view is just a socio-path.

I'm sorry, but I don't see anything vile, vicious or extreme in what Rush has said above. Does Rush make fun of Democrats-sure he does. Democrats are hillarious

Patch Editor,

How much longer are you going to allow Mr. Schulte to antagonize, provoke, and insult your readers? Clearly I don't have to read his posts, but he takes over every story that has political or economic implications. His over the top comments are condescending and offensive to most adult readers. If there is a policy for posting comments, please have him follow it.

Thank you

Conrad, here is an excerpt from a post from Sully yesterday (Saturday) evening at 6:01 pm:

Sully: "Children. That's what you are. You cannot have a rational conversation based on factual information; you resort to name-calling and accusations. You don't question anything you hear from the right[w]ing, whether it be Fox, Limbaugh, Malkin, Coulter, or anyone else who profits from hate mongering. If you could think for yourself, you would have to notice that 100 percent of what these people say is pro-right wing/negative left. Do you really believe that every republican is infallible, always truthful, always patriotic, while every democrat is just the opposite? That's ridiculous. You guys have all this hatred for probably half of the U.S. population. That's a lot of hate fellas. You base every belief on this hatred and you have no idea what the real world is like. You think you're the mainstream? That everyone hates as much as you do? I hate to break it to you, guys, but you are the minority. Richard, it makes no difference if you are as intelligent as you think you are. Since you don't use your brain, it doesn't matter. You don't think. You emote."

No objection from you about this post. I wonder why? Oh yeah, you agree with it-so it's OK.

Look at all the talk about "hate". Can't get much more vile and obnoxious than that can you? I'd say that Conrad is nothing but a hypocrite.

Typical Dems, aren't they Richard Schulte?! Like you said, they try to shut down any debate where a conservative speaks. All they want to hear is their own BS and forbid those of us who disagree with them to say anything.

Richard Schulte: "I'm an under-employed engineer with 35 years of experience. I lost my home in Evanston after living there for 17 years. I was homeless for 3 months. The last 3-1/2 years have been hell. My son is 25 years old with 4 years of college under his belt."

Maybe if you spent half as much time looking for a job instead posting on The Patch you'd have a better job. My 23 year old son, with a 4 year degree, has a full time job in law enforcement. Don't blame others for you failings. If your life "has been hell" for the past 3 1/2 years then blame Bush. It would have been as a result of his policies not Obama's