District 15 Update on Busing Negotiations with DTU
Negotiations have become strained between the District Transportation Union and District 15. A statement has been sent out to all District 15 households updating them on the most recent developments from the school district's perspective.
Statement from District 15:
Dear District 15 Community member,
As you are probably aware, the District is investigating the best way to provide safe, efficient, professional and reliable transportation services for the children it serves. The Board is currently negotiating with the DTU (District Transportation Union) to obtain a collective bargaining agreement. Simultaneously, the Board is seeking bids for outsourcing transportation to use in evaluating the best option for transporting our students.
The Board and the administration wanted to update you on the current status of this process. Below are a list of myths and facts that will help you understand the current status of negotiations with the DTU. As you will see, the DTU has
canceled scheduled negotiation sessions and only agreed to meet on April 16th.
Please contact Darlene Von Behren (vonbehrd@ccsd15.net) if you have any questions or concerns.
| Myth | Fact |
| MYTH: The DTU desires to meet with the District to negotiate a new agreement. | FACT: The Board gave notice to the Union to start negotiations in December. The Union initially refused to meet, and then only agreed to meet after multiple requests by the District. |
| MYTH: The Transportation Union is ready and willing to negotiate with the District. | FACT: The Board proposed 6 meeting dates. The Union initially would only accept 4 dates. After meeting twice in February, the Union cancelled the remaining 2 scheduled dates and refused to meet again until April. The Board continues to reserve these dates. |
| MYTH: The Transportation Union intends to negotiate in good faith with the District. | FACT: During each of the 2 negotiation sessions held thus far, the Union was unprepared, refused to present any proposals and refused to respond to the Board’s proposal. |
| MYTH: The Board desires to outsource. | FACT: In order to be fiscally responsible to the taxpayers of the District, the Board directed the administration to investigate the costs of outsourcing. At no time did the board make a final decision to outsource, just to gather information to help make informed decisions. In fact, the Board made an initial contract proposal on February 25th which maintains current salaries, access to health benefits, and allows employees to remain active in the IMRF pension system. |
| MYTH: The DTU wants to secure a contract. | FACT: To date, the DTU has not offered any proposal, nor has it responded to the Board’s initial proposal. It canceled the remaining negotiating sessions and refused to meet until April 16th. The Board’s negotiating team continues to be willing to meet to negotiate a contract. |
| MYTH: The DTU is concerned that the uncertainty of future employment is creating undue stress on its members and wants to settle a new contract. | FACT: The Board’s negotiating team implored the DTU group to keep negotiating to avoid the unnecessary action of issuing the 90 day layoff notices to all DTU members (as required by law). DTU refused to meet and stated that they were not concerned by the Board taking this action. |
| MYTH: The DTU members are not compensated fairly. | FACT: DTU employees have received salary increases exceeding the consumer price index (CPI) for the last four years , and in many cases, received 4%+ raises annually (equaling over 16% total increase for 4 years.) |
Catherine
6:27 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Myth - Mr. Tim Millar is negotiating in good faith.
Fact - Mr. Tim Millar should recuse himself from negotiating this contract so he can campaign for his potential new Village position instead of holding D15 families in limbo.
Maryb
9:59 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Perhaps the DTU wants to hand pick the negotiators on the other side of the table. The next date the DTU will even meet is one week after the next Board of Education election.
Catherine
7:25 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Mary, I hope you don't think I'm connected with the DTU. I am a concerned parent with 16 years experience of having children in the district. My question is why someone with no skin in the game is negotiating the contract. Mr. Millar will not be around if/when problems arise with an outsourcing company. Leave the negotiating to someone who will be around to deal with potential issues that arise with outsourcing. I presume the DTU doesn't want to meet again until after the election knowing Mr. Millar will not be part of the negotiating team. Having dealt with him on another issue, I'd do the same if I were them.
By chance did you see the D211 correspondence about the benefits of keeping bussing in house? http://d211post.org/district-211-transportation-the-benefits-high-safety-standards-of-an-in-house-bus-fleet/ D211 can see the benefits and still stay within budget. Why can't D15?
Maryb
9:02 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Every taxpayer has skin in the game including Tim Millar. I have seen the D211 PR pieces over the years. They often tell us that D211 is wonderful about staying within budget and saving money. What is not known is if the original budget is overly generous in the first place. Many people in the community have implored the D211 board and administration to put various services out to bid to gain cost perspective and therefore avoid overly generous project and department budgets. They refuse to do so. At least in D15 we have seen the board insist and the administration complete more cost analysis.
D15parentanddriver
10:34 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
"MYTH" The Board of Education wants to negotiate in good faith with the DTU.
"FACT" The Board of Education has called a special meeting with the DTU Negotiating Team on Monday, March 4 @ 8:30 am. This of course is at the time when all the bus drivers are still driving their routes, including the DTU Negotiation
Team
Does this really sound like the BOE is negotiating in good faith? Not only do they want to keep the community from knowing what is going on, they want to make sure that they have the upper hand with the Union Negotiators as well by scheduling a meeting that they know full well can't be attended by the people who need to be there the most.
Scott
9:01 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Its only March 1st; why wont the DTU meet until mid April?
D15parentanddriver
10:58 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
If you go to the website www.district15drivers.org and read the District's laughable proposal, this will answer your question. The original contract was GUTTED which brings things back to pretty much square one which is where the Union was 3 years ago. Did the District and Board expect the Union to throw up it's hands and accept what they proposed (or in this case, didn't propose) on either the 1st or 2nd day of negotiations? If the District is negotiating in Good Faith, why send out Bid Proposals for the second time? You should also read the DTU President's response to the District's "Myths and Facts" letter to the community. That "Myth and Facts" letter has marginal validity if at all. More interesting reading can be found here: http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Local-12-Investigation-Into-First-Student-Bus/7ks9PD8vPkiwgKTZPUEckw.cspx and if you like that one, read on....here's another one regarding Durham
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/08/bus_outsourcing_hiring_from_20.html " The board had been told outsourcing would cut yearly costs by about $775,000, but the switch is costing about $340,000 more a year, according to one estimate." This is a direct quote from the article. There are more stories on the District 15 Transportation face book page Mr Millar refers to these as "Scare Tactics" I think not. They are true, factual articles and videos. I urge everyone to be informed and know the truth.
Sheila
3:31 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
My guess would be because they had two meeting last week when the board eliminated almost all of the current contract contents and to re-write a new contract would require impute from the union members as well as guidance from legal and union directors. If you have ever had to put together a a legal binding agreement where many parties are involved, it doesn't happen over night. Time is of the essence for the outgoing board members, not so much for the contractual deadline. If you look at the current contract at www.district15drivers.org see for yourself the blatant hack job. You will understand there is more than likely an underlying agenda.
D B L D
6:33 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
actually Scott part of the delay is that Dist. 15's lawyer is on vacation.
Untill the Feb. 25 meeting the BOE had been telling the DTU it was all about the MONEY and the DTU was trying to work with the school board to control costs.
After the DTU was blind sided with a total scrapping of their current contract at the Feb. 25 meeting they asked for clarification and reasoning behind the destruction of the existing contract at the Feb. 27 meeting. the DTU and any BOE member that sought information were just cut off from speaking. The DTU needs time to regroup from this attack and respond with a thoughtful counter proposal. .
It appears all the parties involved have personal lives that need to be taken into consideration. All involved parties compared calendars at the Feb. 27 meeting and came up with the next available date in April.
NOW THE BOE IS BLAMING THE DTU FOR THE DELAY
Jacek
9:46 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
When is District 15 going to release the results of the late start / early dismissal survey?
Debs
12:17 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I think it's in bad taste for District 15 to put out this letter. I am a parent and support the district's right to seek bids for outsourcing. I'm not sure I would want our busing outsourced, but I believe in gathering as much information as possible to propose a fair contract for both sides. This is just plain dirty.
Vicki Wilson
12:44 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I've been going to Board and other District meetings for over 5 years. I have seen several Superintendents, other Administrators, and Board Members come and go throughout the years. From what I know of Supt. Thompson, having dealt with him on various issues, and having seen the way he works over the years, I can tell you that email would not have been sent out if it were not necessary. He is not one to want to ruffle feathers. He is the type of person who wants everyone to get along, for things to not get heated, and for everyone to work together. He would not have taken that email lightly. There must be things going on that we do not know about. I can speculate that perhaps the union leaders are saying one thing to their members and doing another when interacting with the Board and the Administration. I ask the public to be careful about judging the actions of some without knowing the actions of all involved.
D15parentanddriver
1:58 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
"There must be things going on that we do not know about. I can speculate that perhaps the union leaders are saying one thing to their members and doing another when interacting with the Board and the Administration. I ask the public to be careful about judging the actions of some without knowing the actions of all involved."
Don't speculate unless you are at the negotiating table, and I can assure you that the members are well informed of every step of the process. I do agree with the last portion though...." I ask the public to be careful about judging the actions of some without knowing the actions of all involved."
Vicki Wilson
4:20 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
It is easy to infer from reading the myths vs. facts that there is some type of disconnect between the union leaders/negotiators and their union members.
How can you be assured the members are well informed, unless you yourself are at the negotiating table?
Let's also keep in mind the District Administration and the Board have successfully negotiated 2 other union agreements recently - the CTC and the SEIU.
Catherine
5:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Vicki, that's great you have been afforded the opportunity to attend the Board and District meetings over the past 5 years, but, I don't think you are privy to the closed sessions. If you are, please enlighten us as we aren't informed of contract negotiations other than what the Board provides in Board press releases. How can you infer from what we are "given" that the shareholders are being told the truth from the Board? The Board tried to pull a fast one on us with the time change. They agreed to it so we must live with it, but, we don't have to live with the times the Board chooses. They finally relented and gave us a new survey (results unknown - must have gone against the Board.) I still haven't heard a good reason as to why Tim Millar, who is on his way out, is still leading the negotiations. BTW - why would you speculate the Union leaders are the only ones misinforming us?
Vicki Wilson
6:35 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Catherine - I am not interested in going back and forth with you anymore. I was trying to give you the perspective from someone who has chosen (we are all afforded the opportunity) to take the time to attend the meetings over the years. I have my perspective, based on researching facts, watching people in action over the years, and looking towards the motivation of those who spread misinformation. A Board Member position pays zero dollars.
Sheila
3:05 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Like you, I too have attended several Board and other district meetings over the past 9 years. I too, have seen Superintends and other Administrators as well as Board members come and go and I don't doubt that Mr. Thompson didn't have just cause in sending an email of this nature. We can sit and debate one's character as we all have our opinions. And mine is this....Mr. Thompson is a puppet! He was hired by this board so that they saw to it that he perform as they see fit. I can assure you Tim Millar and a few others in administration had their hands all over this FACT/MYTH email and Mr. Thompson had no choice but to sign off as a favor for his generous salary increase and extended contract. I find it inappropriate behavior to utilize the email address of the families in District 15 to be deceitful to them about a serious issue which the administration and board wishes to keep negotiations a secret but chooses to blast a message that hold absolutely no validity. This is our Districts leaders! They should be ashamed of themselves! I have watched time and time again this quiet man be manipulated by Tim Millar. The stares by Tim Millar at several meeting when Scott Thompson is addressing the attendees would suggests that he is the puppeteer. He has behaved in a disrespectful mannor to his fellow board members as well as the people of this district. He is a bully and a sorry excuse for a leader.
Vicki Wilson
12:49 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I can also speak to it as I've seen first hand the misinformation that has spread throughout the community regarding transportation. It's important we deal honestly, with all the facts, and not believe everything we hear and read without doublechecking it. We need to look to the motivation of those who spread the misinformation and see if they have anything to gain by a deceiving the public.
Catherine
1:50 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Transparency would be good. During the school start/end time fiasco with the Board, all I ever heard was the Board could not discuss with the public any negotiations with the teachers. WHY not? Who said it couldn't be discussed? Is it law, the teachers, the board? I don't know, they wouldn't say. I want more transparency with the Board/DTU negotiations this time.
Scott
1:05 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Wouldn't publicly posting the details of one sides initial offer be considered negotiating in bad faith?
D B L D
6:52 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Scott
Don't you mean publicly posting the BOE initial offer followed by the BOE
reduction in force letter (threat) prove the BOE is not negotiating IN GOOD FAITH while the DTU continues to pursue cost effective, safe and consistant transportation of all the students in CCSD15
D15parentanddriver
1:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Considering the garbage that is contained in their proposal, not at all. As a matter of fact, transparency is what the Union wanted to begin with, it is the District and the Board who are trying to keep the public in the dark. This whole matter effects the taxpayers, residents, and children of District 15. They should know how the District and Board are handling matters. Read the proposal here...... http://www.scribd.com/doc/127284466/CCSD15-Board-First-Proposal-2-25-13
read the response letter from the DTU president about the "MYTHS AND FACTS" here..............http://www.ieanea.org/local/d15/assets/dtu%20statement%202.28.13.pdf
D B L D
12:39 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
MYTH/FACT
looking at the compensation schedule in the DTU dist 15 contract I can not find any salary increase greater then 1.3%, way below the CPI. ANOTHER MYTH/FACT with false leading information from CCSD15 BOE
D15parentanddriver
11:02 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
"Vicki Wilson
4:20 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
It is easy to infer from reading the myths vs. facts that there is some type of disconnect between the union leaders/negotiators and their union members."
There are more "MYTHS and FACTS" about the "MYTHS AND FACTS" letter that the District sent out. You need to take your blinders off and come to the realization that what you read is not always the truth as far as the District and BOE is concerned.
"How can you be assured the members are well informed, unless you yourself are at the negotiating table?"
The Union members ARE kept well informed by the DTU president and the representatives. We have absolutely NO reason to believe that there is anything except truthful, accurate information shared with our members. It's called "TRUST" in our elected officials (the DTU President, Vice President, etc). That's more than anyone can say about the elected officials of the BOE. One has to wonder if Mr. Millar is trying to further his own political gain after he leaves his present office at the expense of the DTU.
"Let's also keep in mind the District Administration and the Board have successfully negotiated 2 other union agreements recently - the CTC and the SEIU."
And the CTC agreement was negotiated in "secrecy", thus the fiasco with the late start, early dismissal. The parents didn't know what hit them.
D15parentanddriver
3:52 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
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